A Jewish anti-Semite: The case of Csanád Szegedi

It was on June 8 that a Hungarist website called Jövőnk (Our future) after thorough research discovered that one of the very important Jobbik politicians, the anti-Semite Csanád Szegedi, is Jewish on his mother’s side. Jövőnk is written by people who approximately seventy-five years after the fact are followers of Ferenc Szálasi’s Hungarism. I wrote about Szálasi and Hungarism in detail twice in May 2008. Put it this way, the people who write Jövőnk are to the right of Jobbik! Once they discovered that Szegedi’s maternal grandmother’s name was Klein it became obvious to them what is wrong with Jobbik.

Csanád Szegedi, Jobbik member of the European Parliament,
in the uniform of the Hungarian Guard

Interestingly enough, the announcement didn’t become news for a surprisingly long time. In fact, eight days later Magyar Nemzet predicted that Szegedi would become the chairman of Borsod County’s Jobbik. Indeed, on June 24 he was chosen to be the leader of the Borsod Jobbik party, an important position because Borsod County is a Jobbik stronghold.

Although the media didn’t get wind of it, Szegedi’s Jewish origin must have been a topic of conversation within Jobbik and right-wing circles in general because on June 26 Szegedi admitted that the rumors about his Jewish origin were correct.

The admission, as it turned out later, wasn’t quite truthful because Szegedi claimed that he had discovered the fact only recently. He was, by his own admission, shocked and admitted that it would be difficult to digest this new discovery.

Gábor Vona’s reaction on the next day showed his ambivalence over Szegedi’s Jewish background. After all, Jobbik, whether its politicians admit it or not, is an anti-Semitic party. On the one hand, Vona claimed in an interview given on June 27 that Szegedi’s Jewish origin makes no difference. Jobbik is not a racist party. On the other hand, he added, “the recent events [concerning Szegedi] might give rise to questions within the party.” Whatever that meant.

Meanwhile HVG, which has lately become a leading outlet for investigative journalism, discovered that Szegedi’s enemies within the party learned about the existence of the “incriminating” documents two years ago.

For a while it seemed that Szegedi’s ancestry was not problematic in Jobbik. János Volner, a Jobbik MP, when asked by ATV explained that Jobbik has 13,600 members “and who cares if there are Jews and Gypsies among them.” After all, the Hungarian Guard also had Gypsy and Slovak members “and I find nothing wrong with that.” Volner claimed that Szegedi’s Jewishness was “a topic of conversation within the party for only two days.”

That situation suddenly changed when another Hungarist website published a conversation between Szegedi and a man named Zoltán Ambrus. HVG‘s information was correct. Ambrus had all the documents in hand as early as 2010 and confronted Szegedi with his discoveries. At first Szegedi denied everything, but later he offered money for Ambrus’s silence. Csanád Szegedi as a member of the European Parliament has a slush fund of 21,000 euros a month from which he can hire “assistants.”

That revelation was too much for the heavyweights of Jobbik. Előd Novák, deputy chairman of Jobbik, called on Szegedi to apologize for lying about what he knew and when he knew it. After all, Szegedi originally claimed that he found out about his mother’s Jewish ancestry only in December 2011. According to Novák, it is not Szegedi’s heritage that is problematic but that he lied about it. Novák indicated that if Szegedi doesn’t apologize and resign it is up to the leadership of Jobbik to act.

Szegedi gave a lengthy answer that was not at all convincing. He admitted that the conversation on the tape is genuine but tried to explain away his offer of money for Ambrus’s silence. According to him, the tape was spliced in such a way that two topics separately discussed gave the impression that his offer of money and the accusation about his Jewishness were connected.

Szegedi didn’t wait for the Jobbik leadership’s decision on his fate. Two days after the appearance of Novák’s letter on Facebook he resigned all his functions with the notable exception of his job as Jobbik delegate in the European Parliament. Being an EP MP is a very lucrative job, especially by Hungarian standards. His monthly take-home pay is 6,500 euros in addition to all sorts of fringe benefits like free travel expenses between Budapest and Brussels.

That, of course, is not the end of the story. The party leadership doesn’t want to have Szegedi representing Jobbik in Brussels. Szegedi, however, has no intention of resigning and it is unlikely that Jobbik could force him to do so, especially since on July 30 Szegedi quit the party. As he announced, from here on he will “represent Hungary in the European Union as an independent member of parliament.” Just as MDF was unable to recall Lajos Bokros from the European Parliament, the Jobbik leadership is only wasting its time. Szegedi will stay until the next parliamentary elections in June 2014.

The latest twist in the story involves that slush fund I talked about earlier. It turns out that Csanád Szegedi generously shared part of his slush fund with three men–Előd Novák, Balázs Molnár and Roland Kürk–who according to Tamás Polgár, better known as Tomcat, were members of the editorial board of kuruc.info. Polgár by his own admission was at one time also a member of the same editorial board. Details on these three can be found here.

Előd Novák, the EU employee
MTI / Szilárd Koszticsák

HVG learned that all three worked for the European Parliament. Roland Kürk received the largest amount: 15,700 euros between June 2010 and December 2011. The salaries of Novák and Molnár were more modest. Novák in five months received 3,500 while Molnár got 3,700 euros. All three received their salaries as “local assistants” to the member of parliament. The rules and regulations are quite lax. Only the MP knows what his assistants are doing or not doing for their salaries. It is unlikely, for instance, that Előd Novák was a “local assistant” of Szegedi in Brussels. He is a member of the Hungarian parliament and deputy chairman of Jobbik.

The idea of Novák receiving money from the European Union is especially delectable. After all, Novák is a Euroskeptic who in January 2012 burned the European Union’s flag at an anti-EU demonstration organized by Jobbik. Although Novák keeps repeating that his salary was not bogus but well earned money for services rendered, the Szegedi affair can easily become a Novák affair, as one of the reporters suggested. In any case, if Tomcat’s information is correct, it is quite something that Csanád Szegedi of Jewish ancestry may have been involved in financing the activities of the alleged editors of the vituperatively anti-Semitic kuruc.info.

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34 comments

  1. And Brussels isn’t interesting in their funds being used to bribe someone? Surely there has to be some accountability at that level.. ok maybe just a hint of them. No? None at all?

  2. Nothing new under the sun. Under prime minister Béla Imrédy the first anti-Jewish law was decided by Hungarian Parliament. At that time Imrédy was a pious catholic, then he tried to take out the wind of the arrow cross sails. However it was discovered that Imrédy had a converted Jewish grandmother and Horthy fired him. After the German occupation Veesenmayer suggested him as prime minister, But Horthy refused the “zsidó” Imrédy.
    In Budapest cabaret they made fun of him in 1939: “Oi,oi,oi az Imrédy se goi”. He was sentenced to death by hanging after the war, but his sentence was commuted and he was shot.

  3. This sort of scam is being got away with since no one ‘blows the whistle’. If anyone wants to take this further I suggest you have a look at the powers and duties of the European Court of Auditors. I do not have the time at the moment as I am going to have to ‘feed the tribe’ and I am short of 1 small fish and only have 3 barley loves.

  4. So now we see it.
    Jobbik has followed ’Ole ‘Itler’s (the Fuhrer’s) route and adopted their ideas of Eugenics to breed a pure mighty race Hungarian race.

    If Jobbik gets its way everyone will be tested genetically to see if they are pure blooded Hungarian and worthy of being included in the new Master Race.
    Those who are not pure will either be expelled from the new paradise or if only slightly impure the males will be allowed to fight against the horrendous forces of the EU after action has been taken to stop them breeding.

    Slightly non pure females will be impregnated with pure Hungarian ova fertilised in vitro. This will be done to increase the population of genetically pure Hungarians.

  5. The cabaretist, who produced this song was taken after the German occupation to the concentration camp Mauthausen.

    Only during the time of German occupation did the cabaret in Budapest not function.
    During the Kádártime there was “kincstári humor”. A friend of mine who wrote for the cabaret took me during the early seventies to Rádiocabaret. I did not understand it, because one had to live in Hungary in order to understand it. During the intermission a lady who watched me, came up to me and asked me if I understand Hungarian. I told her I do. She then asked “why did you not once laugh?”

  6. The lovely cabarets of prewar era… Interesting enough, Germany had. Fantastic cabaret and burlesque upturned too prior WWII. It has been beautifully portrayed in the musical, Cabaret.
    As far as the pure Hungarian race goes, Jobbik and Orban too admitted and preached about the “Asian blood” in us. I called out Mr Kova h at the time to specify what he thinks of what genetics makes a true Hungarian, but as I was expecting he came up with a Vona like nonsense that obviously just bs. They have no educated guesses or any clue.
    Since the news broke about Szegedi, it is so much fun to read some of the extreme comments, like “his Jewish self came out this is why he lied”. They refer him as a quarter Jew, which of course does not true. He is by Jewish law a half Jew.

  7. Some 1, by Jewish law there are only Jews and non-Jews. The word half-Jew is a racist Nazi invention.
    According to Jewish law, the daughter or son of a Jewish mother is Jewish and also those who convert to Judaism are Jews. But the daugher or a son of a non-Jewish mother is not Jewish.

  8. Karl Pfeifer :

    Some 1, by Jewish law there are only Jews and non-Jews. The word half-Jew is a racist Nazi invention.
    According to Jewish law, the daughter or son of a Jewish mother is Jewish and also those who convert to Judaism are Jews. But the daugher or a son of a non-Jewish mother is not Jewish.

    Oh, yes. Whether our Csanád (what a nice pagan name) likes or not, he is Jewish.

  9. Karl Pfeiffer, thanks for the correction. This is exactly what I wanted to say. They think he is quarter of a Jew or half Jew but he is Jewish.( I got caught up with typing on my IPhone)

  10. I blame his mother for not explaining to him his heritage and what it entails. Did she teach him not to judge someone by their race? I wonder what’s next for him?

  11. News: According to Népszabadság Csanád visited last Friday Rabbi Köves, he is going to visit Auschwitz and he is asking the Jews to forgive him.
    The grandmother of Szegedi was in Auschwitz, his grandfather in “munkaszolgálat” (Jews were conscripted into Labour bataillons). The grand mother did not tell her daughter that she is Jewish.
    It says a lot about Hungary after 1945, that some Jews had the feeling they must hide the fact, that the Hungarian administration under Horthy sent them to be massmurdered to Auschwitz only because they were borne Jewish.
    @Odin’s Lost eye@. From the Encyclopaedia Britannica:

    “….In the modern world, a definition of Jew that would be satisfactory to all is virtually impossible to construct, for it involves ethnic and religious issues that are both complex and controversial….”

    Well said, let us not simplify

  12. What strikes me is the speed with which people such as Csanad are able to learn when circumstances change. I read once of a similar Polish case, where a couple of anti-semits learned of their Jewish ancestors and completely changed their attitudes. In some way it is good news but it would be even better if also the other members of Jobbik and the like could be induced to try to change perspectives (most probably they are capable of it).

  13. Kirsten :
    What strikes me is the speed with which people such as Csanad are able to learn when circumstances change. I read once of a similar Polish case, where a couple of anti-semits learned of their Jewish ancestors and completely changed their attitudes. In some way it is good news but it would be even better if also the other members of Jobbik and the like could be induced to try to change perspectives (most probably they are capable of it).

    Maybe a good method would be to convince them all of their Jewish heritage (you know, Adam and Eve ;-))

  14. “That situation suddenly changed when another Hungarist website published a conversation between Szegedi and a man named Zoltán Ambrus.”

    A small correction: apparently the recording was originally published by the same website, jovonk.info, which had posted the documents about Szegedi’s ancestors – your link points to Kettős Mérce, a left-wing/liberal blog, which found the article by way of Athena Institute, an organisation that monitors right-wing extremist movements.

  15. I could puke on your stories about anti-Semitism. Who does fucken care? Would you tell me at least once about the 10 million Congolese murdered by the most fucking Belgians?

  16. Ilma, welcome! We care about anti-semitism, as you may have noticed. But you should take more care of your language. One might think you are truly stupid.

    And what an amazing knowledge of who misbehaved when. What a luck that there is always some other country (at least in history) to turn to when things go wrong in Hungary.

  17. Gorbanzo Ilma :

    I could puke on your stories about anti-Semitism. Who does fucken care? Would you tell me at least once about the 10 million Congolese murdered by the most fucking Belgians?

    I would like to warn this newcomer that this is not a blog for her as long as she writes such comments.

  18. Gorbanzo Ilma :
    I could puke on your stories about anti-Semitism. Who does fucken care? Would you tell me at least once about the 10 million Congolese murdered by the most fucking Belgians?

    So what you’re saying is that we can kill Jews but not Congolese? Why discriminate… lets just kill everyone that’s not like us…

  19. he always knew – they are all jews – an ‘antisemetic’ party is a good way of keeping attention off jews in larger realm – ‘russian’ mafia – now controlling hungarian armaments sector are all jewish but never investigated etc.

  20. Gorbanzo Ilma :
    I could puke on your stories about anti-Semitism. Who does fucken care? Would you tell me at least once about the 10 million Congolese murdered by the most fucking Belgians?

    Ilma, apparently YOU care, since this is the first time you posted her and it grabbed your attention! See Eva, blog entries on anti-semitism work! Thanks Ilma to proving the point!

    Now, the second part of your message… I am sure your point of views are welcomed on blogs related to issues with the Congolese or Belgium. Unfortunately, I am not sure if your filthy language would be welcomed too there, but you can always try Magyar Hirlap and Kuricinfo where that is the standard.

  21. An: “And here are some others…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history

    Yeah, but a first one was left out “So the people shouted when the priests blew the trumpets. And it happened when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat. Then the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. 21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword.”

    It reads pretty thorough……..

  22. Louis, you really should learn how to quote …

    Is that text from the old testament ? Do you believe in that ? A real christian ?

  23. Louis Kovach :
    Wolfi :”Louis, you really should learn how to quote”
    Yup, it is……I thought everybody would know it here by heart……

    Why should we? Can you expand on that for the readers’ benefit.
    Do you also have a problem that we are focusing on a Hungarian blog on Hungarian anti-semitism? Why would that be Louis? Does the glove fits? You can also follow Ilma to the other places I have mentioned above if the subject is uncomfortable or you share the denial…

  24. Louis Kovach :
    Wolfi :”Louis, you really should learn how to quote”
    Yup, it is……I thought everybody would know it here by heart……

    Right, just a bunch of Torah-reading Jews.

    They started it all, as a matter of fact even earlier, as I said recently, with Adam and Eve…

  25. Some1: “Why should we? Can you expand on that for the readers’ benefit.
    Do you also have a problem that we are focusing on a Hungarian blog on Hungarian anti-semitism? Why would that be Louis? Does the glove fits? You can also follow Ilma to the other places I have mentioned above if the subject is uncomfortable or you share the denial…”

    I have not denied any holocaust, as a matter of fact just wanted to add a dousy one to an incomplete list from An.

    I do disagree with you on the apportioning of Hungarian responsiblity for the fate of the Hungarian Jews in 1944. However, it is very difficult to have any conversation on the subject with folks who immediately call me fascist, Jobbik/Fidesz lackey, etc. next I will be called a Stern gang member…..

  26. Louis Kovach :
    Some1: “Why should we? Can you expand on that for the readers’ benefit.
    Do you also have a problem that we are focusing on a Hungarian blog on Hungarian anti-semitism? Why would that be Louis? Does the glove fits? You can also follow Ilma to the other places I have mentioned above if the subject is uncomfortable or you share the denial…”
    I have not denied any holocaust, as a matter of fact just wanted to add a dousy one to an incomplete list from An.
    I do disagree with you on the apportioning of Hungarian responsiblity for the fate of the Hungarian Jews in 1944. However, it is very difficult to have any conversation on the subject with folks who immediately call me fascist, Jobbik/Fidesz lackey, etc. next I will be called a Stern gang member…..

    Nobody called you immediately a fascist, Jobbik/Fidesz lackey. It is a long stream of post coming from your very own hand that made us believe that you more than welcoming of the ideas of those programs and ideas that serves to support Fidesz and Jobbik’s anti-semitic, xenophobe, homophobe ideas. It was also you who posted your own definition of who is a true Hungarian and it was a very close definition of how Jobbik defines that.
    You disagreement of the Hungarian (and Horthy’s) responsibility of the deportation of Jews is kind of fruitless, as you are not dealing with direct information. I rely on the information received from my grandparents, and from my father, who clearly told me who took them to the Tarttersall Also, if you missed Tibor Frank’s letter to the Hungary’s president, I am including a link. Let me know if you think he is lying.
    http://galamus.hu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=151593

  27. Herman Göring was criticized for keep his state secretary for the Luftwaffe, Field Marshal Erhard Milch, when his Jewish roots were exposed by saying, “I’ll decide who is a Jew”. High ranking Nazis with questionable Aryan ancestry were regarded as useful since their dirty little secret would make for blind obedience to implementing racial policy.

    Useful Idiots will always be the scourge of any extreme party whose core values reek of hatred

  28. GDFXX: “They started it all, as a matter of fact even earlier, as I said recently, with Adam and Eve…”

    Unfortunately, the Adam and Eve story was not shown with the original citation…..hm…was Schmidt involved in that too?

    Kramer suggests that the passage in Genesis where Eve, “the mother of all living” is taken from Adam’s rib may be an echo of this Sumerian pun, though he is quick to point out that “the Hebrew word for ‘rib’ and that for ‘who makes live’ have nothing in common” (S. Kramer “The Sumerians.”

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