Heti Válasz discovered me. As it is clear from the article, the journalists of the magazine know who I am, but only as someone who formerly contributed to Galamus and who appeared a few times on Klubrádió. Both were years ago. For example, the last regular article I wrote for Galamus was in May 2011.
This is the first time my name appeared in Heti Válasz. Once before Tamás Fricz, someone who calls himself a political scientist, mentioned me in Magyar Hírlap in connection with his attack on Professor Kim Lane Scheppele of Princeton. The Heti Válasz piece is a variation on this theme.
I rarely look at Twitter. I simply don’t have time to follow thousands of tweets. When there is a crisis somewhere I may follow the comments of journalists on the spot, but otherwise I ignore the little bird. Therefore it was unlikely that I would have discovered Viktor Szigetvári’s pearls of wisdom that he finds time to dispense on Twitter. But Twitter decided that I had been neglecting them and sent me an e-mail listing some of the topics I might be interested in. The very first item on the list was a comment by Szigetvári from March 12. It read: “jogilag és tartalmilag kim lane scheppele-nél pontosabb és mégis visszafogott értékelés plankó és herczeg uraktól” (in legal terms as well as in content a more precise and more moderate analysis than that of Kim Lane Scheppele from Messrs Pankó and Herczeg). And he gave the link to an article in 444.
I could hardly believe my eyes. Not because Viktor Szigetvári the private person thinks that Messrs Pankó and Herczeg are better legal scholars than one of the most prominent experts on Hungarian constitutional law but because I found it astonishing that a politician could be so unskilled that he would make his criticism public. A politician should never turn against supporters of his cause. And Scheppele’s views more or less coincide with the opinions of the Hungarian opposition. They, like Scheppele, find many of the changes introduced by the Orbán government unconstitutional, undemocratic, and therefore unacceptable.
I’m trying to imagine a situation in which one of Viktor Orbán’s politicians would openly criticize a leading conservative theoretician who just wrote a glowing report on the Orbán government. I wonder how long this man or woman would remain part of the team. Not a minute, I’m sure. And I wouldn’t blame Viktor Orbán for getting rid of the person. In politics, party loyalty is important. If someone cannot adhere to this basic rule of the game he or she should get out of politics. This is a price you pay when you decide to become a politician. And this loyalty extends to supporters as well. A politician doesn’t weaken his party’s case by calling an argument supportive of that case imprecise and inferior.
It was for this reason that I decided to engage in a dialogue with Viktor Szigetvári. If he had decided to admit his mistake I would have left it at that. But he insisted that his open criticism of Scheppele was a most normal and acceptable way of talking about one’s supporters. After all, he has the right to express his opinion. He is mistaken. He as a politician doesn’t have this privilege. He might tell his friends what he thinks, though even that might not be a smart move. In no time it can become common knowledge that X has a low opinion of Y or that X doesn’t agree with the party’s strategy. Soon we may hear from friends and acquaintances that there are huge political differences among the top leaders of the party or coalition. In fact, this kind of talk reached me from many quarters over the last few months.
One could retort that I’m advocating a monolithic and therefore undemocratic party structure like that of Fidesz. But that would be a misunderstanding. I encourage broad debate, but only inside the party. Every time the opposition parties are accused of not having a unified voice, as is often the case, a pious explanation comes about the virtues of diversity. But that is no more than self-delusion. Especially when the stakes are so high and one’s opponent is a truly monolithic party. Under such circumstances one cannot afford the luxury of speaking in many tongues or criticizing one another in public. That’s why I said that Viktor Szigetvári shouldn’t entertain political ambitions. Unfortunately, as co-chair of Együtt 2014, he does.
From our exchange I came to the conclusion that Szigetvári’s main problem with Kim Scheppele is that she is too harsh on the Orbán government. It seems that Szigetvári still clings to the notion that one can come to some kind of understanding with Orbán’s Fidesz. It is time to wake up. One cannot make a deal with the Fidesz of today. I suspect that Szigetvári is one of the proponents of this mistaken notion just as he most likely had a hand in Együtt 2014’s mad search for the nonexistent “moderate conservative middle.”
Why should we be more moderate in our criticism of the Orbán regime? Why is the more moderate analysis of the electoral law preferable to the harsher criticism of Kim Scheppele? Whom is Szigetvári defending? Viktor Orbán? What is he defending? Orbán’s dictatorship? It looks like it. Szigetvári’s analysis is fundamentally wrong and can lead only to defeat. That’s why I decided to take him on in public.
I stayed quite on this subject, as I tend to agree that the publicity of the left internal disagreements harm the opposition more then anything else. I also think harming the harmers (if this makes sense) is not helpful. Anything needed to be said on the subject from my part was said in the previous thread, and I live it like that.
I do appreciate to read your “right side observations”, but I must take an exception of you backing Louis Kovach. If you indeed followed this blog, you must know that the comments by Louis Kovach are anything but informed or factual. Although I do not consider Kovach a troll, he is just a disturbance w/o substance. I hope you do not going down the road of those who’s only contribution to a dialogue (as sharp sometimes as it is) will come down to shallow comments.
ON UNITY, DIVERSITY AND RATIONALITY: CONNECTING THE DOTS
I’m a little surprised that most commentators (and they include some very intelligent ones) have not connected the dots, and are instead wrestling with an apparent contradiction: That Fidesz (and the communist party) are monolithic, and brook no dissent or diversity, either internal or external.
In contrast, the democratic opposition is fighting for freedom and diversity.
So how can Professor Balogh be criticizing Szigetvari for not toeing the democratic opposition line in public? (And if Szigetvari’s public criticism of Professor Scheppele’s analysis is divisive for the democratic opposition, isn’t Professor Balogh’s criticism of Szigetvari likewise divisive?)
That was the superficial summary, leaving out all the crucial details that give this an entirely different complexion:
Fidesz has gerrymandered the electoral districts, enfranchised non-citizens in adjoining countries likely to vote Fidesz while hamstringing expat Hungarian citizens likely to vote against Fidesz, rigged the media laws, bought up almost all the media, rigged or bought up all space for opposition campaign advertising, limited campaign spending, limited campaign air time, used tax-payer money and financed non-givernmental organizations to do unofficial government campaign advertising, fomented popular paranoia and prejudice against the opposition, relentlessly spread FUD and mud without any answerability, and rigged the electoral laws so that the only way any opposition has even the faintest chance is to unite as a democratic opposition (which Fidesz has also manoeuvred to dilute with a multiplicity of bogus government-subsidized pseudo-parties to clutter the electoral list and confuse voters).
Under these circumstances, and with three weeks to go, this is not the time for the enfeebled and fractured democratic opposition to play into Fidesz’s hands by dissenting in public from one of its most important sources of external support [Professor Balogh’s magisterial critique of the very electoral system that Fidesz has so grotesquely distorted in its favor with impudence and impunity] — the self-same source of external support that Fidesz is using all FUD and mud to try to discredit.
If anyone thinks that this is the time to piously applaud “diversity” within the enfeebled and fractured democratic opposition then they are either abstract theoreticians who have completely lost touch with reality — or Fidesz trolls who are all too in touch with it.
The time to celebrate diversity is if and when you have succeeded in getting elected as the democratic government — not when Fidesz is busy cluster-bombing you to smithereens.
And, yes, if the democratic opposition did not have the courage to nip it in the bud, then the likes of Szigetvari deserve the opprobrium that Professor Balogh has dispensed (and dispensed mildly, I might add: Szigetvari deserved far worse).
sorry,
but the conclusion is totally false.
generally I accept and respect Kim’s view of our electoral system. I do not think at all that she is too harsh. And have never said this.
as someone who wrote the first and most comprehensive analysis of the gerrymandering in the Hungarian electoral system, I beleive the some of her statements were more precisely explained in the article mentioned in my tweet.
and of course I have never said that Egyutt should look for the non existent conservative middle. never. some people – with whom I have never had the chance to meet personally think that I believe in this – but I do not.
And as someone who has 3-4-5 townhall meeting a week, I have been doing anything but defending Orban’s regime.
szv
Utter rubbish….
Thank you! How did you find out?
Thank you for the supplementary information. An unambiguous and unabusable way to have put it would have been to say “For an analysis that complements Professor Scheppele’s rigorous analysis with some further elaboration on some points, see also: (etc.).” And then state what the extra points are.
That would have immunized it from being misused by those trying to discredit Professor Scheppele and her analysis, and would have reinforced in stead of weakened the sense of common purpose and solidarity among those supporting the democratic opposition.
Stevan Harnad
Canada Research Chair, Université du Québec à Montréal
External Member, Hungarian Academy of Sciences (MTA)
@Steven Harnad, I think you are mistaken.
Yes, maybe some of us does not connect the dots, I agree. I can only speak for myself, as I did before. Szigetvary maybe is not the sharpest knife in the the drawer, and so if he likes one explanation of the current events better then the other, be it. In this case it is not Szigetvary who’s the problem but whoever put Szigetvary in the position where he is. It is like putting a five year old a driver seat of a Corvette and screaming at him for not driving off. The person who gave him the key to the ignition should bare the blame and not the child. THe child would say, I prefer my foot pedal driven toy car, and that would be a reasonable answer.
We can example blame and hate Matolcsy for his idiotic things as much as we want, but we know well that it is not him who is responsible for the financial mess created. Orban knows the limitation’s of Matolcsy as well, but he is perfect for the job Orban really wanted him to do. If the left thinks Szigetvary’s perfect for the job, then it is not Szigetvary who should be blamed. The problem is not Szigetvary.
and just to make it it clear once and for all: I have never said that Kim’s statements are inaccurate, just that I have found an even more precise and focused analysis.
First:
Congratulations, Eva and Happy Birthday to you!
Though at our age (I’m over 70 too …) a new year in life is bound to be not better than the last!
Second:
Obviously in this final phase of the election campaign Fidesz uses everything to divide and destroy the opposition – which really should show “Unity”, so I find this whole “affair” a bit strange – who said what and why to whom …
PS: My wife just told me that she will vote for LMP because they’re the only ones who stand for a new democratic beginning …
@viktor szigetvari
“…just that I have found an even more precise and focused analysis.”
The Great Hungarian Mind at work…again.
Is there nothing that the inferiority-riddled mind of Hungarians cannot belittle?
Mr. Sz. you may be able to judge the work of the two little Hungarians but I’d be mightily surprised if you’re qualified to judge the work of Ms Scheppele. For that, you would have to have been dealing with the same subject at Oxford/Cambridge, the Sorbonne, Harvard, and Stanford…under the tutelage of experts in the same subject (if any such ever existed).
Mr. Sz. you are like most Hungarian political operatives–looking for the main chance; and something of value that you may convert to cash. And as such, you don’t mind throwing a
‘foreigner’ like Ms Scheppele on the fire to further your ambitions. Shame on you.
Petofi, good grief, you really are a repellent and sad little man. I am assuming that Victor Szigetvari is THE Szigetvári but what a pathetic way to respond. And this from someone who for whatever reason, has been allowed to right the most racist stuff about Gypsies on this blog (sorry, your argument is that they really ARE useless, therefore using them as an adjective of derision is fair game. Yuk)
so annoyed I typed “right” meaning “write.” Time to lie down (and calm down.Sorry)
Petofi is right and what’s pathetic is that you use his past comments about the Roma as an argument …
I guess Szigetvari learned his lesson. He should not crap on the table where his friends are eating.
Let Szigetvari speak about the mega corruption, illegal writing of the new constitution, and many other crimes against Hungary and the EU, under the Orban 2-3 age..
I am tuned in.
@HiBoM
Tsk, tsk–getting in your licks because I pointed out your trollishness, huh?
Now, a little lesson in ‘thinking’.
You write:
“I am assuming that Victor Szigetvari is THE Szigetvári..”
An astute ‘assumption’!
What if you had read carefully, “I have never said that Kim’s statements are inaccurate…”
Did you notice the “I”? (No assumptions needed.)
As I have said before, scratch an angry Hungarian and find a mental midget.
Someone writes: “I do appreciate to read your “right side observations”, but I must take an exception of you backing Louis Kovach. If you indeed followed this blog, you must know that the comments by Louis Kovach are anything but informed or factual. Although I do not consider Kovach a troll, he is just a disturbance w/o substance. I hope you do not going down the road of those who’s only contribution to a dialogue (as sharp sometimes as it is) will come down to shallow comments.”
I am always smiling at your attempts to degrade what I write. When I read your comments I know that the words went home, otherwise the drivel would not start….
A short English lesson. “Precise”= exact, accurate, correct. “inaccurate” = mistaken, incorrect, not accurate.
Think it through!
OT Sorry to disturb the discussion but i am compelled to remind you:
“This is my last territorial demand in Europe” Hitler, September 26, 1938.
“Don’t believe those who say Russia will take other regions after Crimea. We don’t need that.” Putin, March 18, 2014.
yes, I understand this. what is the problem? I have never publicly criticized Kim’s statements. I agree with her, as I have said this many time before.
I have just tweeted that I had found a more precise (pontosabb) analysis. And yes, I have never criticized Kim’s generaly view of the electoral system. I believe that the papers and blogposts that I had published about the electoral reform (most of them were VERY critical) have helped even Kim to understand the system more.
@Mutt
“…you use his past comments…”
This led me to think that my gypsy comments were made way before HiBoM began commenting. So the question is this: who studies the past comments of bloggers?
Rather strange, I’d say…
Now, let me clear up this ‘gypsy comments’ of yore that keeps popping up (from trolls, mind you).
I’ve lived beside gypsy communities; partied with them; enjoy their fun-loving, vibrant life-style…and am aware that they behave differently in different communities. Budapest gypsies
are tough as nails and dangerous–there are gangs that prey on the old and infirm. I don’t have to detail stories of how they pretend illness and while the apartment dweller tries to help, the other members rob her apartment.
What I do object to is the loud cries of victimization and no help. This is not true: many is the development that has been built for them and junked after a few years by members living within.
As well, children are often kept from school to do various, nefarious tasks.
The problem is not just in Hungary. Gypsies have shown their colors in Britain and Canada of late. They are impossible to deal with principally because they treat mainstream society as the ‘suckers’ who can and should be tricked.
But there are other gypsies: ones who work hard and try to get their kids through school and on to a legitimate way of life. Often they succeed. But guess what: these people are ostracized by their gypsy brothers; or they themselves decide to withdraw completely from gypsy society. I’m all for pin-pointing these families and extending all the help possible; but you can’t put help in the hands of ‘gypsy organizations’. The proof is that nothing going that route has helped in the past.
By the way, I’m also a jew and do criticize jewish groups as well. Members of Chabad Lubavitch in the US can be particularly virulent, and unethical. Look up slum landlords in New York for articles on them. And they all wear a yarmulke and zizit and pretend to great religiousness. Far from it.
Truth is truth, and must be told unvarnished. Or how will our kids learn?
@Victor Szigetvari, I’ve been trying to get this woman to explain what the problem is and she has failed to provide an answer that makes sense to anyone except her sycophantic coterie.
I should say that I feel your election campaign has been completely ill-conceived and is a complete disaster and I do agree with Eva Balogh that you really shouldn’t be allowed near an election campaign again (because you aren’t very good at it, rather than for reasons of ideology.) But I do appreciate you having the decency to visit here and use your real name and I’m sorry the other anonymous inhabitants of the dung heap have responded quite so crassly (or in Ms Balogh’s case, patronisingly.)
This “observation” of yours proves again how right I am about your cluelessness. lol Keep trying although!
you may be right concerning my competence, but I hope you know exactly what I am responsible for, day-by-day.
THis woman’s name is Eva Balogh. You are not referring to your do, so have some respect. I may disagree time to time with Eva, but I never loose sight of her accomplishments and that I am visitor on her blog.
Well, Orban said many things to. WHat really stands out is the “Do not listen what I say to get elected”, while talking to American diplomats, and I can just imagine what he said to Putin… As far the Hungarian Government finally says that they support Ukraine….. “Do not listen what they say”, let see what they do.
I am warning you, HiBoM. I will not tolerate your impertinence for long.
and one more thing, you wrote:
“It seems that Szigetvári still clings to the notion that one can come to some kind of understanding with Orbán’s Fidesz. It is time to wake up.”
this is also fundamentally false. it is impossible to reach any compromise with Orbán – and I have never said what you wrote about me. never. I know that is is easier to fight with an imagined opponent, but please do not lie about me. (just yesterday I had a joint townhall meeting with Ferenc Gyurcsány in Mohács, with whom I had worked for a long period of time as his national campaign director in 2006, ask him if not anyone else about my speech there concerning Orban and his politics).
you may criticize my, you may disagree with me, but please always argue what I have said or committed, not what you think that I have.
@viktor szigetvary: I hope that you do realize that calling one thing “more precise” (pontosabb) than another is actually criticizing the former as it implies that the former is less precise. This automatically leads the reader to believe that there are inaccuracies in the former, because you called the other analysis “more precise.”
Now it is possible that this was not what you meant, but this is what the use of the word “pontosabb” implies.
This is rather unfortunate as we all know that the Fidesz likes to attack foreign experts accusing them of being imprecise or inaccurate.. so your choice of words, whatever your intended meaning was, only gives fuel to such Fidesz claims, supporting those voices that try to discredit Professor Scheppele’s analysis and expertise in the matter.
I think that as a politician, you should be more careful of your choice of words and consider their implications.
yes, you may be right, but I am only responsible for my own hermeneutical position. And I have to repeat that I have not said that Kim’s analysis is false or misleading, not even that it is not precise.
Unfortunately some people on this blog are habitual liars. If you hope that they will not lie about you every single opportunity they get, you will be very much disappointed.
I suggest you ignore their lies and continue your much needed work for victory in the election on April 6.
I agree that someone who posts under his real name, as Mr. Szigetvari has now done, deserves courtesy — especially from those who are posting anonymously, regardless of which side they are on.
I also think that the quality, credibility and influence of comments posted to the Hungarian Spectrum would only benefit from being kept impersonal and temperate, focusing on the ideas, actions and facts rather than the person. The frustration of the democratic side is understandable, but the hyperbole and ad hominem are extremely counterproductive.
P.S. Although after all his abominations Viktor Orban does not deserve any courtesy, if he were to post (verifiably) to the Hungarian Spectrum I would speak courteously and focus on bringing past and present tactics and facts out into the open (as in the public debate he predictably declined avoided), not the frustrated rants that would just amount to spleen vented and opportunity lost…
Wad—Goebbels 101
I find it very sad that small (I hope) differences lead to such fights, especially since the Fidesz mafia is only waiting for disagreements of any kind in the opposition and uses everything for its advantage, whether it’s true or just imagined!
The way the trolls have come again into this discussion and are (mis)using it is a real shame for us all!
You’re right Stevan. Welcome Viktor. I’m also very disappointed about how the campaign is being run, and maybe, eventually, we’ll learn more about what has been done, by whom. Ideally, Hungarian politics in the future will focus more on praising people who do things right, rather than doing things wrong, but I’m sure Mr Szigetvari can relate to the frustration in this blog right now. But as to what people here *actually want* – well, that is a more difficult question.
Whilst I really do think Eva chooses her topics brilliantly, and would obviously run a superb tutorial group, I come here (in patches) as much to read the comments. These comments come from the full spectrum of anti-Orban opinion, and I find many of them more relevant than Eva’s comments, many of which doesn’t match my own experiences of Hungary, or don’t match my own opinions on things.
For example, Eva’s stalwart defence of Gyurcsany’s Blairite politics doesn’t seem *quite* as unworldly as it did back in 2007-2009, but it’s still an, ahem, controversial opinion. Yet on the other hand the questions about Hungary’s development that Gyurcsany did attempt to address (in my opinion clumsily) remain questions. How can Hungary survive and prosper in a harsh 21st century environment? To be honest, I’ve yet to see a plan from *anyone* which is utterly convincing, and the 2006-2009 focus on infrastructure wasn’t an *entirely* useless response, and the numbers certainly show that the M1 corridor, from Austria to Budapest, has been a big factor in whatever prosperity exists in Hungary. So let’s just say that nobody here should pretend to have all the answers, and it’s by no means clear that apparently discredited answers were as hugely wrong as has been perceived.
Just to be clear, I’m writing here anonymously, not really by choice, but because I’m sensitive about my opinions on Hungary being accessible to people who I work with, in a non-politics related profession.
I agree.
(Please do not loose sight that many of us do not use our real names, not because we are afraid for ourselves but because we are afraid for our families in Hungary. With a jewish family in Hungary I do not feel safe to publish any personal data on this blog. Eva does know my name, my email address and so forth. I stand behind what I say, and if you wish to have my contact info, Eva is free to provide it to you. I would not have a problem to provide my contact to some of those who oppose to my views but not to all.)
The problem is that Szigetvari is a somebody in Hungarian politics while the people who criticize him here are literal nobodys in Hungary. Many of them do not even live in Hungary yet they bark orders as to what should be done and how Szigetvari should abandon the campaign.
People like Harnad are not worth to lick the boots of people like Szigetvari. And yet Stevan Harnad writes insane drivel such as:
DZS, I’m warning you. We don’t use language here! Ok? Do you understand?
@DZS: I actually found Stevan Harnard’s bio a lot more impressive then any well-known current politician’s in Hungary.
I found an interesting site: http://www.kozterkep.hu/maps
One can look for different cities or even villages and look for art found in public places. Fun.
@DZS Little that you know….
May I ask how many times have you visited this blog before? I mean have you ever read this blog before?
@DZS
Another drone of the troll tribe.
Eva, they’re zinging you from all angles!
Harnad is a professor from a respected Canadian University, something that no Hungarian
politician–or very few–can aspire to. I’ve had many an entertaining moment looking up the university qualifications of Fideszers. Some of them proudly pepper their CV with mention of Brit universities…but NOT A ONE has a degree from one. In fact, all they’ve done is listen in on a course–sad sacks of Hungary, and the trolls who do their bidding.
http://arokaso.blog.hu/2008/07/14/eva_s_balogh
“The electorate wants someone who will speak to them, understand them not arrogantly dismiss them.”
The Hungarian electorate certainly doesn’t.
They want a lying mafia which promises them the world (and 10% of their electricity bills) and tells them that everything is possible as long as they trust Uncle Vik.
(1) They want somebody who seems to care about them. Deals with simple, but important issues not with grand intellectual issues like rule of law or human dignity.
(2) Somebody who does not align himself with lefties and liberals, who only bring disorder and chaos, change, loss of tradition and jobs, anxiety.
Not so complicated.
Grand intellectuaĺ issues, hey? They may be so in an uncivilized world ruled by the instincts of primates, but in today’s Europe they are certainly basic. Wether you’re an employee or a businessman, a child or a parent, these are the tools you need to improve your life, that of those you care for, and the well-being of the community you live in.
Moreover, in a natural resources-deprived continent like ours, they are part of the basic conditions for creating wealth through innovation and creation – something you might want to consider in the 21st Century economy.
@Eva S. Balogh
Attacking Szigetvári on Twitter, you just made a huge favor to Fidesz, exposing Scheppele’s affiliation with you and the Hungarian left. http://ferenckumin.tumblr.com/post/79978771132/the-hungary-expert-discredited-on-twitter
My favorite part is when you write “We are working ourselves to death here, and you are ruining everything.” So much for the independent expert image. Who are that we besides you and Scheppele? Anyway, by all means, please continue! If anything, that helps Fidesz win 2/3 majority again.
“Deals with simple, but important issues not with grand intellectual issues like rule of law or human dignity.”
Are you for real?
You and Hungarians in general couldn’t give a flying for “Rule of law” and “human dignity” and that’s why they vote for Orban’s mafia?
Then things are even worse than I thought they were- well ok, you go ahead and vote for the Fidesz/Jobbik fascists Hungary and you will get exactly the government you deserve!
Wow! Whoever writes Kumin’s blog is a perfect example of the nutty right wingers in Hungary – does he believe that foreigners or other English readers buy this shit?
In a way it’s interesting that Fidesz spends so much time on a blog by an insignificant retired prof in Yale and its sycophantic Methusalems following it …(That’s what you read in Fidesz circles …) – so maybe this is really important or even dangerous for them?
Of course those majority of Hungarians “with simple, but important issues not with grand intellectual issues” won’t read this …
Ferenc Kumin’s blog is probably written by a team of PR hacks in London, but it does illustrate the disregard that most politically active Hungarians have for civilized, literate debate – you know, point, thesis, antithesis, that sort of thing. The rule in Hungarian politics is to find your own glaring inadequacies (Communist past? Corrupt infrastructure deals? Incompetent?) and then project them onto your enemies. Use of coded language (Bankar? Etnikum? Libsi?) always helps get your point across.
The notion that Kim Lane Scheppele’s or Eva’s critical opinion is the result of a hidden paymaster is classic, old fashioned Comintern paranoia. I doubt that the person (Kumin?) using that line of reasoning even believes it, but the target audience in Hungary sure will. It’s the swill they are fed every day. The really funny part is that Kumin’s blog is not aimed at Hungarian consumption. When read by someone not acculturated in Hungarian political rhetoric it just comes off as something comic and grasping.
I have taught in Hungarian schools and universities. Hungarians –whether left and right leaning – were raised in a school system in which there was no concept of debating an issue on its own merits. Disagreeing with the teacher/system/rules was met with punishment, fast and simple.
The present ruling clique really do take their football a bit too seriously, and are happy to cheat and change the rules to give themselves the advantage. That means they can dress Ferenc Kumin up in a suit so he doesn’t come off as an anonymous troll, but the ad hominem attacks, the twisting of words, the “flower language” are all there. Thing is, they don’t have the effect on English speakers that they do for speakers in Hungarian. He is not convincing anyone, at least not in English. But heck, it is his job. I’ll bet a nice car comes with the position.