Mária Schmidt’s latest opus: The love story

Mária Schmidt is familiar to the readers of Hungarian Spectrum. This latest article of hers also appeared in Heti Válasz, her favorite publication. Her vision of  Jewish-non-Jewish relations as a love affair goes against everything we know about the period between the two world wars. If Sorsok Háza (House of Fates) becomes an embodiment of that love affair, we will have a totally false depiction of Hungarian reality. No wonder that the Hungarian Jewish community has great reservations about the project.

I have no doubt that the Sorsok Háza will open its doors and that what we find inside will mirror Mária Schmidt’s strange vision of modern Hungarian history. She makes it clear here that the project is a government-funded undertaking and thus no one has the right to have any say in its execution.

Mária Schmidt started off as a promising historian in the late 1980s, but soon enough she changed her chosen profession to become a party propagandist. She became chief adviser to Viktor Orbán in the second half of the 1990s and provided the underpinning of  Fidesz’s historical ideology.

The question is how long she will be useful to Viktor Orbán. Her latest excursion into the field of historical propaganda was not exactly a success story. The controversial memorial to “all the victims of  the German occupation” of March 1944 did serious damage to the already badly tarnished reputation of Viktor Orbán and his regime. 

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“The Holocaust represents a value, because it has led to immeasurable knowledge at the cost of immeasurable sufferings;
thus, there is an immeasurable moral margin in it.”

Imre Kertész

I have not seen S. Z. for decades. The last time I met him was in New York in the early nineties at the place of the outstanding historian T. J., a common friend of ours, who has sadly deceased since. We got to know each other in Oxford where both of them were teaching then. S. taught Jewish history, of which subject he is one of the most widely acknowledged American academic experts, and I spent some time there on a research grant. Then S. came to Budapest for a conference, and after he gave his presentation, we went out for dinner. We talked for hours, and a lot of topics came up including the “House of Fates,” about which he had already heard a lot back in Washington and of course also during his stay here. Those who volunteered to bring him up to date concerning the state of affairs in Hungary, about me and the would-be Holocaust museum, had spared no effort to dissuade him from meeting me, both via e-mail and then personally. They were probably unaware of our long time acquaintence  which gave me the advantage that he wanted to ask me his questions and hear my answers, which is what he did. So we talked at length about the new memorial site which is in the making. I told him about the concept of the exhibitions and of the education and training center. I showed him the exterior and interior visual designs, the interior fit-out and furnishing concept. We discussed the prospective permanent exhibition in most detail. Finally he said: “If I get it right, this is a love story. A story of love between Hungarian Jews and non-Jews. A love that has survived everything. As a result of which there is still a large Hungarian Jewish community living in this country.”

Yes. This is exactly what the “House of Fates – European Education Center” is all about. This is about decision makers’ intent to take an oath on a common fate shared by all Hungarians: Jews and non-Jews alike. About the commitment to make sure that just like our predecessors we can also plan a shared future despite the cataclysms of the 20th century. This is why it is crucial for young generations to get to know and understand what the tragedy of the holocaust meant for our national community as well as what the causes, circumstances, intents and forces that had underlain and fuelled anti-Semitism in Hungary and in Europewere. Who and why had poisoned the lives of our fellow countrymen categorized as Jews even before the fateful Nazi occupation of Hungary. How and why part of the last, nearly intact European Jewish community could be so swiftly annihilated in Nazi death camps. Who are responsible for all that? Who were the ones who remained humans amidst inhumanity because they opted for what is good, at the risk of even their lives and freedom in some cases. How could the survivors start anew and process what can hardly be processed. Why the majority of those people decided to stay here, to start their lives at home again and share what their fellow countrymen had to share. For this is something unparalleled, something that is not self-evident at all, particularly if we consider the fact that in this Central and Eastern European region, and nearly in the whole of Europe, survivors decided to leave and part with their past.

The House of Fates is made up of three parts, namely an exhibition, an education and a training section. Moreover, it has an up-to-date, well-equipped conference room, a room for hosting and staging temporary exhibitions and the required infrastructural background.

The exhibition section is divided into three units: A permanent exhibition that takes 50-60 minutes to tour. The area of this exhibition is shielded so that visitors cannot use any electronic device there. The story that is related here focuses on the period between 1938 and 1948, based nearly exclusively on recollections of survivors, and is supposed to touch the feelings of the visitor, make him interested and, ideally, to prompt him to ask questions. The installation and the narrative are both targeted at the 14 to 24 year-old generation.  Having toured this exhibition unit the visitor can proceed to see the “exploration” section or go on to look at the remaining “chamber” exhibitions.  Upon entering the exploration section the visitor is (or may be) given a tablet, with the most important information concerning the items on display, including names, dates, and a lexicon, along with questions and assignments. Those interested in the chamber exhibitions may decide to see them or to come back and visit them at a later date. As our plans stand at present, the chamber exhibitions will show Hanna Szenes, the Zionist resistance, Raoul Wallenberg, Margit Slachta, Sára Salkaházi and the 1944 story of the Józsefváros Railroad Station as well as the story of the Jewish community of Budapest’s 8th  district called Józsefváros. This is where the walls of perpetrators, those responsible and the humanitarian rescuers will be installed. A videostream will be played in the exploration room, showing visitors the most important events and personalities of those years. A number of computer workstations will also be installed where additional information and data can be collected and studied. Interactive workplaces will be created for browsing and searching for information.

At the training center there will be programs bringing as close as possible to members of the “Y generation” the very feeling and experience of being excluded, outcast and persecuted, while drawing their attention to the importance and inevitability of making a choice between good and evil and individual responsibility.

Importance is also attached to offering a training program to enable teachers to teach their students about the collective persecution to which entire social groups had been exposed under the dictatorships of the 20th century, with particular focus on the tragedy of the Holocaust.

It was seventy years ago, in 1944, that Hungary suffered one of the most horrendous tragedies in its modern-age history. The second Orbán cabinet took its decision on the creation of what is known as the “House of Fates” in the context of the memorial year relating to the 70th anniversary of the Holocaust. In remembering the national tragedy seven decades after, this memorial year is intended to be a site of “creating order in our common matters” and have “peace flow through our rembrance and regard”1. In the context of the memorial year, the government has allocated a HUF 1.5 billion budget to social programs and it adopted a decision building up the Memorial to the Child Victims of the Holocaust – European Education Center at the site of the former Józsefváros Railroad Station.  I was entrusted with the role of leading the professional project team, while the implementation of the investment project was assigned to Government Commissioner Dr. Balázs Fürjes.

This assignment is a real honor for me but it is an immense responsibility and workload at the same time. It took me quite a while, wavering whether to undertake it at all. My children tried to dissuade me. As did some of my friends. One argument against taking up this job was that I would be exposed to relentless and fierce attacks. And even if all goes well, which I have staunchly believed up to this very day, I may expect nothing but denigration. Finally, I answered yes, out of love for my country. I hoped that through such an immense and successful undertaking I could perhaps make a contribution to reconciliation, to a discussion of the tragedies of the past to settle issues and to at least alleviating, if not bringing to an end, all of the evil and purposeless accusations constantly experienced even today. Thereby neutralizing or at least weakening the forces continuously calling Hungary an anti-Semitic and fascist country, using these unfounded stigmata as a political weapon to discredit the Hungarian nation as a whole. Indeed, I expected all of those who already started a media campaign against the  House of Terror Museum and spared no effort to discredit it both in Hungary and abroad, to activate themselves again, and, alas, so they did, wasting no time. The same individuals and circles, with the same vehemence, started the same ruthless attack driven by the same motives both in Hungary and abroad, against me and the prospective memorial site, unleashing that orgy of hate which is so characteristic of them. This is why the “House of Fates” project became, right from the beginning, a target of a series of attacks lead, most unfortunately, by the Federation of Hungarian Jewish Faith Communities (MAZSIHISZ). For as we were approaching the 2014 election campaign the neolog Jewish religious organization undertook to launch a frontal attack against the government – yielding to circles of intellectuals dissatisfied by the weakness and wavering of the anti-government forces – threatening to boycott the memorial year. They put together a package of three demands, calling for the discontinuation of the sculpture composition designed for Szabadság Square in remembrance of Hungary’s Nazi occupation, the removal of director-general Sándor Szakály from the helm of Veritas, a new historical research institute and a right to control and supervise the creation of the House of Fates.

sorsok haza projekt

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán tried to remove the politically motivated onslaught from among the campaign themes by inviting Jewish organizations to consultations after the elections.  Nonetheless, MAZSIHISZ and  its supporters continued their relentless campaign and their  attacks on the House of Fates. They threatened and tried to blackmail everybody cooperating with us or even considering accepting our invitation. They bombarded the members of the International Advisory Board with e-mail messages, as well as anybody else whom they could contact. They spread their accusations all over the place both in Hungary and abroad. In collaboration with certain leaders of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington – who have, to be honest, been rather negatively biased against us in the first place –, they turned Yad Vashem against us.

They are continuously inciting the Israeli Hungarian community as well. Among other charges, they argue that the name “House of Fates” is wrong or misleading, the location is not authentic, or if it is, then it is too particular; the deadline set by the government is too short for such complex work to be carried out properly, and then within one month of my appointment I was attacked for not having worked out a finished scenario. A public auto-da-fé was staged in the “Bálint House” where Professor András Gerő, arguing in favor of and working in the project team, was subjected to a ritual execution (also instead of me) by MAZSIHISZ employee László Karsai posing in the role of the grand inquisitor, in unison with the rather hot-tempered audience.


This had seemed likely to come; indeed it was to be expected. I went and kept going through this before, during, and for years after, the opening of the House of Terror Museum. However, the like of the direct and intensive international pressure I have experienced in relation to this assignment I did not even have to face at the time of the creation of the House of Terror Museum.  At that time it was only Mr. Mussatov, the then Ambassador of Russia, who protested against the new museum but his objections were settled through a joint tour of the exhibition and a discussion. The former diplomat has delivered presentations at several of our conferences since then. In regard to the “House of Fates”, however, ambassadors of a number of western countries feel compelled to lecture me on how to interpret, indeed, how we all Hungarians should interpret our 20th century history, with a special focus on the role of Miklós Horthy. I have had to sit through countless lectures delivered by western diplomats about Horthy, Hungary’s “revisionism”, the collaboration of Hungarians etc., and all of them represented countries whose history offers at least as many, if not even more, very good opportunities to raise uncomfortable questions. I was asked as early as just before Christmas 2013 by US Deputy Chief of Mission Mr. André Goodfriend – of course on a strictly “friendly” basis – for a list of the names of those working on the House of Fates project. Then a fortnight later he told me – again, on a friendly basis – that he did not agree with the participation of some of those included in the list. “I wasn’t aware that you needed to agree” was my response, also on a friendly basis. The Ambassador of the UK to Hungary assured me that Her Majesty’s government was avidly interested in the Hungarian Holocaust. This is very nice of them, particularly in view of the fact that their predecessors weren’t so very deeply concerned while the annihilation of European and particularly of Hungarian Jewry was underway. Both these gentlemen and a dozen or so of their fellow diplomats expressed their expectations and wishes in regard to the prospective exhibition. Hungary’s ambassadors in both Tel Aviv and Washington were summoned by the Departments of Foreign Affairs because of me, complaining about a remark I had made at a book presentation event, along the lines that the post-World War I system of dishonest peace treaties had been the most devastating tragedy of the 20th century and that a fair and unbiased approach should be taken when forming an opinion about Horthy’s role in history just like in the case of Kádár’s role, rather than viewing these political leaders strictly in black and white. Foreign diplomats, particularly some of the responsible officers of the US voiced their definite expectation that it should only be appropriate and necessary for the Hungarian Government to invite an international committee of historians to commit Hungary’s 20th century history to paper for us, Hungarians. They keep applying pressure to achieve such a governmental assignment. Even the US Foreign Secretary had been mobilized to achieve this end. I am particularly proud of the fact that during the latest Arab-Israeli armed conflict, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanjahu managed to find the time to send a letter to Viktor Orbán, voicing his concerns about my humble self and the House of Fates project.

As a consequence of internal political skirmishes and the unprecedented international pressure applied, both MAZSIHISZ and Yad Vashem withdrew from the International Advisory Board of the House of Fates project.  The rest of the members were also brought under pressure, to make it impossible for that board to continue its work. Therefore, instead of the next scheduled meeting of the international advisory board, we could only hold a consultation where the members present (Michael Wolffsohn and Joshua Muravchik) liked and were satisfied with our concept.

The situation changed somewhat by the middle of this summer. Special Envoy for Holocaust Issues Douglas Davidson and Sir Andrew Burns of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) ascertained, each of his own, that the misgivings concerning and attacks against the project are utterly groundless, and therefore it would be rather difficult to explain why they withdraw their support from a memorial site that will be Europe’s largest and very likely most grandiose and sophisticated such project.

Based on an initiative put forth by Director of International Jewish Affairs for the American Jewish Committee Rabbi Andrew Baker, a consultation took place in Budapest on July 28 among the House of Fates, the Páva Street Holocaust Memorial Center, MAZSIHISZ and IHRA, to remove obstacles from continued cooperation. The experts participating in the meeting raised no objection whatsoever against the contents of the exhibition and had no proposal or idea of relevance to be put on the table.  After half a day of discussions the parties agreed that a working group to be formed of the representatives of international Holocaust experts would help us with our work in regard to both the exhibition and education. The agreement so reached was broken up by MAZSIHISZ within 24 hours, again without any sound reason at all, asserting that the text that was published in the form of a press release was not the same as the one that had been agreed on, despite the fact that the president of MAZSIHISZ had approved this text beforehand in an e-mail message. Within another 24 hours IHRA  gave its support to this attitude.

The attitude of the foreign experts and officials is characterized by nothing better than what IHRA’s English Chairman Sir Burns told me at the end of the meeting in July – suggesting, again, of course, on a strictly friendly basis that I should no longer write articles, thereby referring to my text entitled Captive of the Past concerning the Szabadság Square memorial which had appeared a few weeks earlier in the weekly Heti Válasz. He and Mr. David Cesarini justified this piece of advice by referring to my responsibility for the House of Fates project which I must not jeopardize by publishing essays of sorts. All of these developments only deepened my awe and admiration of the developed western world, on account of its deep and staunch commitment to the freedom of speech and thought, even if I am beginning to vaguely recognize how much there still is for us to learn here, on the outskirts of the developed world, before we can also fully enjoy this privilege. Until then, we should best refrain from writing articles or doing things such as thinking about our own history – rather, we should be grateful and accept that all of these missions will be undertaken by them instead of ourselves, for our benefit.


The party-state dictatorship set up a single tightly controlled organization to lead Hungarian Jews actively practicing their religion through which it could simultaneously control both the internal affairs and the international relations of the Hungarian Jewry. Only the most determined individuals remained members of Jewish organizations during the decades of the party-state rule, partly owing to the above mentioned strict supervision and partly because open expression and practicing of one’s Jewish identity definitely did not meet the approval of the Communist authorities, in some cases entailing the devastating accusation of being a “Zionist”, in most cases with gruesome consequences. Members failed to flock to religious communities in large numbers despite the “Jewish Renaissance” that followed the political regime change. Those communities are still made up primarily of a few hundred – mostly elderly pensioner – devotees. Consequently, the leaders of those religious communities – just like the organizations they are heading – enjoy no general acceptance in Hungarian society, as has been increasingly revealed by a long series of scandals that have broken up in recent times.

No matter how a variety of influential international Jewish organizations as well as Israel’s representatives and diplomats have hastened to back them up, Hungarian society cannot be persuaded or forced to accept an official who first turned from transvestite performing artist into Lutheran theologian and Catholic parish choir master, and then on to the executive director of the Budapest Jewish Community, who is, according to the chairman of the Community, is not even of Jewish origin; or a former executive director banker who had been convicted for bribery. It is also clear for all interested outsiders that the current Chairman of MAZSIHISZ is not seeking an agreement in relation to the House of Fates but he is trying to improve his position to get re-elected by fully exploiting the media interest concerning the prospective memorial center. The Chairman of MAZSIHISZ is posing in the role of a relentless representative and promoter of the organization’s interests to prove his indispensability towards a handful of voters as well as international Jewish organizations and Israel. This is why he keeps upsetting all agreements and imposing new and then further demands and conditions. This is why he has formulated such demands in relation to the House of Fates that had never been and are still not considered to be of importance in relation to the Páva Street Holocaust Memorial Center, which is alleged to be very important to both him and the international Jewish organizations. During the past more than a decade the leaders of the Jewish religious community have never been able to contribute to creating the necessary environment and conditions for undisturbed and efficient work at the Páva Street institution, as is eloquently proven by the miserably low numbers of visitors and the unceasing internal skirmishes. And these unblessed circumstances were not in the least different during the eight-year period when they were cooperating with a Socialist-Free Democrat coalition government.  As a matter of fact, MAZSIHISZ leaders are driven by their own self-interests when they keep provoking fruitless conflicts with the government, whatever action the government happens to take. In attacking the House of Fates, they will even find it worthwhile to obstruct worthy remembrance of the victims of the Holocaust and our murdered compatriots.

In the autumn of 2014, Mr János Lázár the minister in charge of the Prime Minister’s Office who played a leading role in devising and organizing the memorial year for the 70th anniversary of the Holocaust; in putting in place the Szabadság Square memorial and the launching of the creation of the House of Fates, offered an adviser’s contract, much to the consternation of all, to Mr Gusztáv Zoltai, who had  played a leading role in blocking all of the above programs, until his dismissal in early April 2014. According to the arguments then put forth by MAZSIHISZ Chairman András Heisler, Holocaust surviving Zoltai had been so severely affected by the government’s intent to erect a memorial for the victims of Hungary’s German occupation, that he resigned from all of his positions. Heisler himself opted for a different strategy, by turning for help as usual to international public opinion. Zoltai, who used to be a 1956 Communist militiaman, a member of the Hungarian Socialist Workers’ Party (MSZMP), a former member of the communist workers’ militia, headed MAZSIHISZ as an executive director from 1991.

His demonstrative inclusion on the government side was explained by the minister by pointing out that he “did not regard advisory services as some monkey business” and that they had known each other for quite some time. Public consternation was only further aggravated by János Lázár’s promise that the House of Fates would be opened “only in the framework of a consensual solution “, i.e. only if the domestic and international Jewish organizations, most recently, Hungarian Holocaust survivors and “those who suffered the tragedy”, find it to be acceptable and agree with its “professionalism”. Nothing could be more natural than Mr. Heisler’s interpretation: the minister gave them the right of veto concerning the House of Fates project.

Accordingly, the Faith Community, a religious organization representing about two thousand individuals will exercise censorship over the contents of one of the government’s important large scale projects, and will determine its view of history and its message. No such thing has happened in Hungary ever since the separation of state and church towards the end of the 19th century.

To let international Jewish organizations have a say without having contributed a single penny to the costs of setting up the institution is contrary to the responsibility of the sovereign Hungarian state for its own past, present and future.
In an interview with the daily Népszabadság (September 26, 2014) János Lázár repeatedly expressed that the moral values, the kind of community of shared values determining the political right, mean nothing to him. He finds criticism concerning his employment of Zoltay to be immaterial; indeed, he considers “any form of ex-post evaluation from the outside” of his newly hired adviser, to be a mistake. Let us not be surprised when using the same argument he invites one of these days the very Ferenc Gyurcsány to work for him as a government advisor, to whose Őszöd address Mr. Lázár referred the other day as a positive example.

Mr. Lázár apparently fails to understand that this time we are dealing with our very identity. This is not about practices in wielding power or safe bargains concluded in the background, but about principles, belief, all of the things on which our whole life, including our political community rests and is built. We have seen lots of examples during the past 25 years how disregarding principles and moral convictions lead to the loss of all values and then the collapse of entire political communities. When politics appear to be reduced to all-pervasive cynicism and bare immorality, the countdown will immediately start.

When I undertook to create what will be called the House of Fates, I knew what attacks I would be in for.  I undertook the job nonetheless, because I am convinced that my country needs to make sure that young generations also learn that preserving solidarity towards each other is one of our most important common values, and giving it up leads to immense losses and tragedies in the past, and the same would be bound to happen in the future as well. I am convinced that processing the past of our nation as well as presenting and teaching the lessons drawn from it are our tasks and responsibilities which we do not want to and will not evade. This is a cause for our national community that cannot be influenced by any particular or external interests. Not even if Mr. Lázár holds other views on this. The happy ending of the Love Story is at stake.
We must not let it get botched up. I for one will definitely do my share to prevent that.


  1. There is much to comment here and one could spent hours dissecting and critiquing the words and thoughts of Mária Schmidt.

    Two comments stand out for me that, in my view, lay bare her utter ignorance and misunderstanding of the experience of Jewish Hungarians. Firstly, a “love story”? Really? When I hear the vile anti-semitism of some of my Hungarian relatives and friends, both young and old, I don’t feel any “love”, only animosity, ignorance and hatred. For example, one such relative, a lawyer, educated entirely under the Communist regime, refuses to go to a certain cafe in Budapest because “it is run by the Jews”. Doesn’t sound like love to me.

    Secondly the statement, “It was seventy years ago, in 1944, that Hungary suffered one of the most horrendous tragedies in its modern-age history.” Ah, the “Hungary as a victim” view of history! So, Hungary had nothing to do with the German occupation and subsequent murder of half a million of its citizens? Yes, it was an unimaginable tragedy but until Hungarians face up to their role in the near destruction of the Jewish Hungarian community, the wounds can never truly be healed. When prominent (meaning favoured by the State) intellectuals, such as Schmidt insist that the Holocaust was something that happened *to* Hungary then the outlook remains bleak.

  2. There is a contradiction:
    “Her vision of Jewish-non-Jewish relations as a love affair goes against everything we know about the period between the two world wars.”

    The quoted article says it was a famous American historian S. Z. who said: “This is a love story. A story of love between Hungarian Jews and non-Jews. A love that has survived everything. As a result of which there is still a large Hungarian Jewish community living in this country.”

    The love is not about the period between the two world wars but up to present day. As a result Hungary still has a large Hungarian Jewish community. And it was not the idea of Maria Schmidt. Instead it was S. Z. who is a teacher of Jewish history.

    So did S. Z. not understand Jewish history which he teaches? Why is he going against everything “known” about the topic?

  3. One needs a strong stomach to read this without getting sick. Not much to comment, just an interesting other contradiction:

    At the beginning of the article Schmidt talks about the Hungarian-Jewish love affair and one of her examples for this affair is the fact the so many Jews stayed in Hungary, as opposed to all other surrounding countries.

    An then at the end she talks about the fact the during the Communist regime even to be labelled Zionist had dire consequences. The fact is that except for a short period in 1956 (when a large number of Hungarians – including Jews – escaped to the West) Hungarians (Jews or non-Jews) had no legal way of emigrating.

  4. What a vile attack in the name of reconciliation on “those individuals and circles” who unleashed “and orgy of hate”….wow. Has she read what she wrote just to see who is exactly being hateful?

  5. Glorious jobbik and their grey sponsors should embrace and deify this lady.
    Orban really does not deserve such a valuable genius.
    But all other decent Hungarians must distance themselves from such a disastrous thinker.

  6. A careful study of anti-Semitic prejudice and accusations might be of great value to many Jews, who do not adequately realize the irritations they inflict. (Letter of November 11, 1933)H.G. WELLS

  7. Attila quotes H.G. Wells: “A careful study of anti-Semitic prejudice and accusations might be of great value to many Jews, who do not adequately realize the irritations they inflict.”

    Right, it’s the Jews fault. They should stop inflicting irritations and the world would change. Including Schmidt. And the Attilas of the world.

  8. Ladies and Gentlemen,

    As many of you know, in January the Russian-Jewish magazine “Evrejskaya Starina” (“The Jewish Antiques”), #1, 2014, pp. 4-102, published my 100 pages’ article on Horthy as a savior of the Jews of Budapest. The article is fully available on the Internet on http://berkovich-zametki.com/2014/Starina/Nomer1/ERabinovich1.php and it has the Table of Contents in English and 75 references.

    Now I wrote a shorter (9000 words) magazine version in English titled: “HOW “ANTI-SEMITE MIKLOS HORTHY SAVED THE JEWS OF BUDAPEST”. The article in full can be read on:

    Part 1: http://emr37.livejournal.com/1767.html
    Part 2: http://emr37.livejournal.com/1807.html

    and the American-Jewish magazine “Moment” has published a shorter version (3000 words) on its website on:


    I hope you’ll find the reading interesting. Of course, I prefer that you read the longer version in the Live Journal .

    Eliezer M. Rabinovich

  9. Eva:

    How are we to know that you are quoting (something) by Schmidt? Did you tell us? Is her piece in quotation marks?

    I query your submission because I wouldn’t have read even the third of the piece had I know who wrote it.

    Anyway, a simple question to the likes of Schmidt will hoist them on their fallacies:
    why did Hungary send 500,000 more jews to Auswitz than was asked for by the Germans? And, was their widespread outrage in the Hungarian population or did they go along with this, rubbing their hands and waiting to divvy up the spoils?

    Rather than such horseshit by Schmidt, Hungarians ought to figure out how to assuage their deep-seated guilt.

    Why is it that a leader like Mandela knew the importance of admitting past wrongs with his Truth
    and Reconciliation Commission but Hungarians don’t?

    Let us not forget that the supposed mainstay of a western country’s moral well being–the Christian Church–has held its silence over this matter.

  10. I love petofi.
    He is right.
    Such a piece of anti-intellectual tyrad, work of misinformation does not deserve broadcasting.
    I am emphasizing that Hungarian Spectrum is 110% decent and represents high moral value, which I acknowledge with sincere gratitude.

  11. I couldn’t read that piece, after a few sentences I had to stop and get fresh air …

    Then I scrolled to the end and now I have a few questions:

    What does this mean: ” Not even if Mr. Lázár holds other views on this. The happy ending of the Love Story is at stake.”

    And: Who translated this?

  12. On some points, I disagree with “Petofi” and “Elek.” I think it’s important for people who don’t speak Hungarian to know what Schmidt has written. As to “Wolfi’s” comment – it’s not surprising that he/she couldn’t read the piece. What is surprising is that the original article (in Hungarian) was published at all. But that raises the question: Where and when was it originally published? Heti Válasz? Finally, it’s worth mentioning that just two weeks ago András Gerő published a piece in Magyar Narancs with arguments remarkably similar to some of Schmidt’s above.

  13. The Fidesz regime whitewashing does not stop with Horthy:

    On October 6, the Budapest court “Fővárosi Törvényszék” started the “rehabilitation” (posthumous acquittal) procedure of Balint Homan.

    He was a historian, who supported the deportation of Jews to the death camps and worked against Horthy’s attempt to switch sides in October 1944. He was convicted as a war criminal in 1946 [two years before the Communist takeover] and died in jail in 1951.


    An evaluation of his life:

  14. I think it is important that Schmidt’s words should be read as wide an audience as possible- a reader should be allowed to make their own judgement.

    “This is very nice of them, particularly in view of the fact that their predecessors weren’t so very deeply concerned while the annihilation of European and particularly of Hungarian Jewry was underway.”

    If I ever had the opportunity to speak to Ms Schmidt, I would point out on a “friendly basis” that there are many crucial differences between the governments of Mr Cameron and Mr Orban but in response to this specific point…. in WW2 the predecessor of the present UK government wasn’t actively involved in sending its fellow citizens of to its extermination. There was no mass movement in the UK actively helping the SS in this process- that is the crucial difference and if the likes of Schmidt, Orban, Kover et al can not even understand that difference, then I genuinely despair that there is even a trace of humanity lurking anywhere in their souls.

    On a more general point, as is clear from my contributions on here, I am no intellectual nor academic. However, Ms Schmidt is widely regarded, not least by herself, as both. The kind of comment I highlighted above and other petulance apparent in the piece strikes me as something that I teenage blogger would respond with when faced with a commenter ripping their illogical polemicism apart.

  15. The love story Schmidt mentions was a one sided love. Already in 1941 the Hungarian state sent about 20.000 persons who could not prove their Hungarian citizenship to Kamenets-Podolsk and they stopped the action when the Germans said, they do want it stopped.
    In 1944 Adolf Eichmann was surprised by the Hungarian zeal to deport Jews. Two trusted officers of Horthy László Endre and László Baky were pushing the Germans to have a final solution.

  16. In the middle of this drivel, Maria Schmidt writes her true goal: “neutralizing or at least weakening the forces continuously calling Hungary an anti-Semitic and fascist country”. This has nothing to do with ‘education’, otherwise.

    So, when will it be written into the constitution that every school child be taken to the House of Fates?

  17. A wolf in sheep’s clothing, or an interview with Orban from 1989:

    He speaks about growing up in a hut at the forest without bathroom.
    Orban just moved together with his wife in a small apartment in district 9,
    the first baby was named Rachel after his wife’s Gypsy client,
    borrowed his car from his mother-in-law.


  18. “Faith Community, a religious organization representing about two thousand individuals ”

    1. a mistranslation AND also
    2. a false piece of data.

    In the original:
    “Ezek szerint tehát egy mintegy kétezer embert képviselő vallásos szervezet: a hitközség”

    So she is objecting that the Jewish community (Gemeinde in German) have any say in the exhibition about the Holocaust!

    In the first half of 2014, one million people donated 1% of their 2013 taxes to one of the 31 Fidesz-accepted religious communities. This is about 1/4 of the people who had to submit a tax return.

    MaZsiHiSz (Neolog): 7,082 people, or 80.8%
    EMIH (Chabad): 1,450 people, or 16.5% (Orban’s favorite Jewish organization)
    Orthodox: 232 people, or 2.6%
    (data from September 8, 2014)

    The two Reform Jewish communities are not “accepted”, so their supporters cannot donate the 1% since 2011.

    From the context, it is also clear that she talks about MaZsiHiSz here, the Neolog community.

    But MaZsiHiSz alone has at least 7 thousand tax-paying, non-retired supporters, not 2 thousand as M. Schmidt claims in her article.

    The three “accepted” Jewish communities constitute 0.88% of the 1,001,482 donors to the 31 religious organizations.

    If we project the 0.88% to the 10 million inhabitants of Hungary, we can talk about 88 thousand people.

  19. Sometimes I wonder about how carefully people read Hungarian Spectrum. At the very beginning of my post I clearly state that it appeared in Heti Válasz in Hungarian. A few days later it was translated into English by Mandiner, a conservative website ran by fairly young conservatives.

  20. @D7 Democrat, I agree with. Mária Schmidt is a very important source of the historical thinking of the Orbán regime. Her harebrained ideas have been adopted by Viktor Orbán.

  21. “I was asked as early as just before Christmas 2013 by US Deputy Chief of Mission Mr. André Goodfriend – of course on a strictly “friendly” basis – for a list of the names of those working on the House of Fates project. Then a fortnight later he told me – again, on a friendly basis – that he did not agree with the participation of some of those included in the list. “I wasn’t aware that you needed to agree” was my response, also on a friendly basis.”

    This is really amazing. Goodfriend is asking for a list of all names who work on something. Apparently to decide who can keep their job and who must be fired. Goodfriend is deciding one by one, who can write research papers, background materials, who can be janitor?

    I wonder how does he even know if a person is fit for a job like this. Let’s take Andras Gero a Hungarian historian someone said earlier is working on this project. How will Goodfriend decide if Gero can work or must be fired? Will he read all of Gero’s books in Hungarian? When he only understands one or two words?

    I didn’t know the US embassy had so much responsibility over Hungary. It must be standard operating procedure for them. And no doubt many people just take the easier road and just fire whoever the US representative points to for whatever reason.

    this is how you treat a colony. you even send out decrees on who can get a small job.

  22. Dear Eva, actually, no, I have to agree that the HS re-publication of the Mandiner translation of Schmidt’s Heti Válasz article was not clearly tagged or titled, and still is not. It is definitely not enough — for either scholarly or just informational purposes — to mention (part of) the crucial information in the first paragraph of a 4-paragraph italicized discursive foreword (itself not clearly labelled as such), followed by 3 asterisks and a quote from Imre Kertesz, still in italics, followed by an unititled, unlabelled text in roman typeface. It would be very helpful if the whole Schmidt translation were now preceded by a header with something like “Mandiner translation (link) of text by Maria Schmidt which appeared in Heti Válasz 2014.10.07 (link). I understand that HS is being archived by the Library of Congress. It would be very useful to future historians and other users if such critical source information were clearly presented and formatted in the main text, rather than relying on the hope that users will read the subsequent commentaries…

  23. “caretaker,” like “KPT” — yet another Fidesz Troll, using signature Fidesz smear tactics

    It’s so familiar, it’s getting old: Slip some anonymous insider information into an allegation with tendentious spin. At least in Hungarian Spectrum it can promptly be seen for what it is. Hungarian captive press readers are not so lucky: Back into the Basement, “caretaker,” your cheap tricks have no leverage here…

    Watch how “caretaker” now follows up with the usual Fidesz ploys:

    (1) ignore the identification as F-troll and just dig in deeper on the validity of his/her/their smokescreen bullet-points,
    (2) parrot back any accusation at their accusers,
    (3) (anonymous) personal attack on non-anonymous commentators (sometimes with some self-pitying indignation about the unwarranted sullying of their pseudonymous selves),
    (4) switch identities and carry on…

  24. The New York Jewish weekly estimated in March that there were between 35,000 and 120,000 Jews living in Hungary. It’s amazing the intensity of the discussion over all historical issues relating to this remaining small population of people.

    Why in the world has Fidesz and its various ideologists even bothered with its historical revisionism, its drawn more negative press towards Hungary than the ongoing bad treatment and prejudice against the Roma ever has.

    Then we have Caretaker’s crazy post which reflects on the American colonization of Hungary thesis that is growing among Jobbik and Fidesz circles. This too will eventually come back to haunt Hungary. Well at least Hungary was able to tie Romania and set off a riot in the stadium along with tear gas unleased on the crowd last week.

  25. Harnad, put down the Palinka and step away from the bottle. You drank too, haven’t you? You are no longer coherent. Or what other explanation can be for your nonsense and hysteria? Such as writing:

    ” Slip some anonymous insider information into an allegation with tendentious spin.”

    Let me repeat the quote that you identify as “anonymous insider information” :

    ““I was asked as early as just before Christmas 2013 by US Deputy Chief of Mission Mr. André Goodfriend – of course on a strictly “friendly” basis – for a list of the names of those working on the House of Fates project. Then a fortnight later he told me – again, on a friendly basis – that he did not agree with the participation of some of those included in the list. “I wasn’t aware that you needed to agree” was my response, also on a friendly basis.””

    Do you know where this quote is from? It appeared in the article posted on 2014: 10: 18 by Eva S. Balogh on the Hungarian Spectrum. Do you know which website is thath: Or you just start typing randomly half-drunk until you fall asleep and your face hits enter?

    Eva S. Balogh very clearly said that she is reviewing/reposting an article by Maria Schmidt that originally appeared in Heti Valasz. How much more non-anonymous can you get?

  26. @caretaker aka the latest (and most stupid ?) troll – which of course is an anonymous creature like all the others, paid by … (Now you get what Stevan H. meant?).

    After all the things that Schmidt has written I totally understand that many people are wary about those which work on this “house of terror” or whatever, whose real function seems to be to scream:

    No, it wasn’t us which did it!

    And this story is only the latest (not the last probably …) in a long line that has been reported on here on HS …

  27. “S. Z.” = Steven J. Zipperstein. “T. J.” = the late Tony Judt.

    Last August, Mrs. Schmidt in a letter to András Heisler was referring to Mr. Zipperstein by his full name. In October, only the initials are left.

    Shouldn’t the whole piece be titled ‘An Unrequited Love Story‘?

  28. What I’m curious about is, what about the non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust? Will they be also represented and memorialized in the House of Fates? Hundreds of thousands of Roma were also purposefully exterminated during the war, as well as homosexuals, mentally and physically disabled, etc. Not to mention the fact that Józsefváros is pretty much the center of the Roma population in Budapest. It seems like they have been left out of this debate.

  29. @ Buddy: The Roma question is probably of little concern. The House of Fates is concerned only with “neutralizing or at least weakening the forces continuously calling Hungary an anti-Semitic and fascist country”. Although I suggest Ms. Schmidt (as a professional academic) should list all those who are “continuously” saying this of Hungary, rather than making a broad insinuation. Because I don’t know who is doing this.

    And, I doubt whether Ms. Schmidt’s view of the Roma holocaust is much different to Zoltan Balog, Minister of Human Resources, who believes that “there were no direct deportations [to concentration camps] of Roma from Hungary: Hungarian Roma were deported via Austria”.

    i.e. (as Wolfi has already mentioned), “it was all someone else’s fault”.

  30. The numbers maybe surprising.

    Roughly 500,000 Hungarian Jews were killed in WWII. (Ask Randolph Braham)
    They have received very little assistance from their Christian friends, neighbors, co-workers.
    About 100,000 Jews, mostly in Budapest, have survived the war.
    Perhaps 5,000+ Jews were hidden and assisted by fellow Hungarians, and their number can be estimated at 15,000-20,000.

    The rest of many millions were silent, or outright hostile.

    How can this nation account for such a genocide?

    Why is Maria Schmidt trying to create a cover of lies to excuse these many millions of very heavily involved sinners?

    As always, the cover up is an almost bigger crime than the original crime.

  31. For awhile I was wondering if Mária Schmidt managed to get her brain scrambled too, and she actually believes all the lies/falsifications/whitewashing what she write about, being so stupid and assume that everyone else is clueless, or so deeply rotten that will sell her soul/name/knowledge to the presently ruling criminal regime – then I decided, it doesn’t really matter what her reasons could be.

    Dr.Mária Schidt, shame on you!

  32. OT: If the US or rather those smartipants at State think they can influence Orban and his government with such childish threats like refusing to let Arpi Habony to travel to the US, they fundamentally misunderstand Orban (or Putin or any dictator). Orban’s strategy now is to keep calm, be polite and courteous for a while, be even accommodating, and promise to be more polite in the future. Fundamentally: to buy time. This is what Orban did with the EU. In the end Viviane Reading and Barroso learnt to stop worrying and love Orban. They almost became best pals, there’s so much lough on the pictures about their meetings. All the while Orban was amassing his billions. The US has no real leverage over Orban and he will not back down in any material way. Orban can’t appear as though he would be bowing before the power of the US, except to imply to his people, that “look I need to act polite to please those dumb Americans, but you and I know that we are smarter than those liberals/jews/capitalists. By the time the American burocrats will realize that nothing had really changed, we will have won. At that time nothing can be done any more about Paks, Southstream, gas, oil. We will double-crossed them as we did the arrogant and out of control EU.” Orban can’t lose face, his persona is the very embodiment of being invincible and powerful.

  33. Yes, Polgari, we have a saying in Germany that describes this very well:

    Ist der Ruf erst ruiniert, lebt sich’s gänzlich ungeniert …

    Once you’ve lost your reputation, you have nothing left to lose!

    But in the long run Hungary will regret having been on the wrong side – again!

  34. ““I was asked as early as just before Christmas 2013 by US Deputy Chief of Mission Mr. André Goodfriend – of course on a strictly “friendly” basis – for a list of the names of those working on the House of Fates project. Then a fortnight later he told me – again, on a friendly basis – that he did not agree with the participation of some of those included in the list. “I wasn’t aware that you needed to agree” was my response, also on a friendly basis.””

    Guys, this is not the way U.S. diplomats operate. I have a very hard time believing Schmidt’s version of events.

  35. Seal Driver: “Guys, this is not the way U.S. diplomats operate. I have a very hard time believing Schmidt’s version of events.”

    This was my reaction exactly. Is Schmidt so credible otherwise to make us believe this particular passage of this scribble?

  36. The National Election Bureau simply annihilated (“megsemmisítette”) the protocols for mayor in Budapest 15th district without waiting for the results of the appeal!

    Their pretext is absolutely ridiculous , but Fidesz obviously needs this mayoral position.


    For a short while, they even changed the winner of the race without a new election!


  37. New book by Moldova with characters like

    dr Napoleon Pocket as prime minister,
    Antal Arrogan as himself,
    Verbulcsu Mokany as Csanad Szegedi

    Orban predicts a Jobbik takeover, Orban’s temporary exile to Ukraine
    with his 100-strong government, etc.

    The first part of the book is pretty funny.

    The title: Hungary, the Judenrein Zone

  38. yes Correct.!!!They should stop inflicting irritations and the world would change.!!!!
    thats for fact !!!
    respect values of people in your host country in relation to those of your own. … cope with sadness, manage conflict, show respect, demonstrate love,!!!Attila
    gdfxx ,,,

  39. @Bowen, yes, that’s right, I forgot about that quote from Balog. I guess no Roma were deported from Hungary because of a “Love Story” between Roma and non-Roma! Ha ha ha.

    @attila, bigots will be bigots, anti-Semites will blame Jews for everything no matter what the latter group does. Those people are everywhere I suppose but unfortunately there are too many of them in Hungary

  40. D7, one has to learn from pros not from losers. Iran’s been masterfully playing the negotiation game with the West. The strategy works splendidly. Orban is copying the strategy and it will work for him too.

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