Thanks to Budapest Sentinel, we now have an English translation of an article published on the internet site 444.hu with the title “This is the way to make the most money in Hungary.” Earlier I wrote a post about MET Holding A.G., headquartered in Switzerland. It is partly owned by MOL, the Hungarian oil company, and partly by Hungarian individuals–people formerly employed by MOL and businessmen with close ties to Viktor Orbán. At the time there were a lot of questions about this very successful company, but since then 444.hu‘s journalists managed to ferret out details of MET’s business model. As a result of their work, we now know how the Orbán government manages to divert public money into private hands. We can be certain that this is not the only enterprise that specializes in creating a new business class on taxpayer money. Enjoy!
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- MET has made huge profits on natural gas since 2011
- For this it needed the help of the government and state-owned MVM (Hungarian Electric Works)
- Russians are also involved
- Even as MET makes a lot of money, its business partner MVM requires state support
Over the past four years a Swiss-based company partially owned by various off-shore companies was given the opportunity by Hungary to enrich its owners in a totally unique fashion.
The Hungarian subsidiary of MET managed to make a huge amount of money by securing an exceptional place on the domestic gas market thanks to government orders and wonderful contracts. After tax profits in 2012 alone were nearly HUF 50 billion (USD 225 million).
The government was so generous that all three opposition parties (MSZP, Jobbik, and LMP) filed complaints of misappropriation, fraud, and money laundering. The National Office for Investigations, however, found no crime and did not open an investigation on the basis of any of the complaints. Over a year ago MSZP, and now LMP, formally requested the MET gas contracts from MVM. The parties are awaiting a court decision.
The machination that opened the road
It is not clear whether the elimination of the KÁT (obligatory electricity purchasing system) played a role in MET’s success, or whether one followed from the other, but the story starts here.
The KÁT was a unique kind of state support available in the case of renewable technologies or power plants producing both electricity and heat. Here the second pillar of KÁT is interesting, which numerous local governments have to thank for being able to obtain heat inexpensively for district heating. The theory was that the so-called “connected production” producing both electricity and heat was environmentally friendly because it made more efficient use of energy. In this way the gas-fired power plants also qualified for state support and could supply heat cheaper.
The price of KÁT was built into the cost of electricity. But in 2011 after a long debate the part pertaining to power producers was eliminated. There was a big scandal about it. For example, it was on this matter that former state secretary for energy matters János Bencsik clashed with then Fidesz caucus leader János Lázár who submitted the bill. Lázár won the battle and from July 2011 producers of electricity and heat no longer received supports from KÁT, and therefore could no longer provide a discount to many dozens of cities.
It was for this reason that the government issued a decree providing cheap gas to the settlements and institutions that suffered. 585 million cubic meters of gas was released from Hungary’s strategic gas reserve for this. In this way it was possible to avoid increasing the price of district heating to many dozens of cities. However, it was necessary to replenish the gas.
We’re replenishing, we’re replenishing
Let’s first look at the replenishment of the gas taken from the strategic reserve because that was the biggest business.
For many years it has been possible to purchase gas less expensively in Western Europe than the gas coming from Russia on the basis of the contract concluded (with Gazprom) in 1995. (Of course, the gas coming from Western Europe may also have originated in Siberia, it is merely a matter of Russian pricing).
In the hope of obtaining cheaper western gas, the government issued a degree whereby the HAG pipeline between Hungary and Austria could be used free of charge in the interest of replenishing gas reserves. Under normal circumstances gas traders would compete with one another for the right to use the pipeline, with the one paying the most given the right to use it. This is a EU requirement, by the way.
However, given the extraordinary need to replenish gas, this obligation was temporarily suspended. In the name of energy security the government made it possible to access the HAG pipeline without auction for one year between July 2011 and July 2012. The government was very generous. Minister for National Development Mrs. László Németh’s pencil cut a thick line. In the interest of replenishing the 585 million cubic meters of gas used to compensate KÁT victims, it ordered that 2.9 billion cubic meters of gas could be transported without auction, in other words, very cheaply.
Furthermore, the law providing special access was extended from year to year, always with reference to energy security. The current arrangement is valid through the end of June 2015.
For the past four years it has been possible to import a total of 19.6 billion cubic meters without having to compete for the right to use the pipeline. All of this in order to replenish 585 million cubic meters of gas. As the discounted quantity of gas completely used up the pipeline’s free capacity, during this time others could not access the HAG pipeline. In other words, beyond the fact that the government put someone in a very favorable position, it also removed all competitors from the road.
According to the decree originally two companies were entitled to import gas without auction: the gas trading company (MVMP) owned by state-owned MVM (Hungarian Electric Works), and a small amount by E.on. The gas business unit of the latter was acquired by the state in 2013 and given over to MVM. In this manner, since then MVM has been the only beneficiary of this arrangement.
Apart from the long-term contract concluded with the Russians, only the state could import gas cheaper. However, somebody else also made money off of this. To be more precise, somebody else primarily made money off of this.
How does MET come into the picture?
Profits arising from the sale of gas imported inexpensively by MVMP could have enriched its owner, the state. Or it could have sold the gas cheaper to consumers, and in this way help decrease utility costs. But it did neither. The arising profits were collected by the Hungarian subsidiary of Swiss based MET Holding.
The model works as follows:
- One of MET’s subsidiaries, METI, bought cheap gas from the west
- It sold the gas at the Austrian-Hungarian border to MVMP
- MVMP imported the gas by availing itself of free access to the pipeline in accordance with the decree on energy security, extended annually
- On the same day MVMP sold the gas at minimal profit to MET
- MET was than free to sell the gas to Hungary for whatever it could
So in practice the state allowed a market player to use the pipeline. This is indicated by the fact that, according to the contracts, only such cash traded hands as was necessary for MET to pay MVMP a small margin for transporting the gas over the border. This was HUF 2.50 (USD 0.012) per cubic meter. Gas purchased from MET was HUF 32 (USD 0.15) cheaper per cubic meter in 2012 than the gas arriving from Russia on the basis of the long-term contract.
A year ago, an unknown individual posted part of the contracts concluded between MVM and MET online, without which no one would have found out what is happening.
And what became of the gas taken from the storage tanks?
The whole matter started when the government released 585 million cubic meters of gas from strategic storage in order to help those for whom district heating became more expensive as a result of the decrease in KÁT. Except part of the gas went to MET.
The official reason for this was that no one else needed the cheap gas. According to the explanation, by the time the government decree was issued obliging MVM to release the cheap gas, every district heating company and potential beneficiary had already contracted with the market for the gas quantity required for the year. MVM then decided that if it could not sell directly to those consumers leaving it in the lurch, it would issue a tender to sell the cheap gas.
In September 2013 and February 2014 Hungarian Socialist Party MPs Tibor Kovács and István Józsa posed questions relating to Mrs. László Németh, then Minister for National Development. From her answers it is possible to figure out what happened.
From the answer given by Mrs. Németh in September, it can be determined that of the 585 million cubic meters of gas, only 270.6 million cubic meters could be supplied indirectly to the beneficiaries. In other words, half the gas inventory was given over to traders.
And from the answer she gave in February 2014, it turned out that the trader was MET.
All of this the government found to be appropriate considering that by ministerial decree MVMP had to take delivery of the reserve gas. And if it did not find a customer it was only logical that it sell the remaining gas through public tender with the requirement that the trader sell the gas to the KÁT victims.
Too much money, too little money
In 2012 it was readily apparent who was making money on this. Even as the gas trading unit of MVM closed the year with a loss of half a billion forints (USD 2.3 million), MET’s owners were able to take HUF 55 billion (USD 205 million) worth of dividends out of the company.
For a long time MVM was one of the largest revenue generators for the state. Furthermore, it always had a lot of cash on hand. It was precisely for this reason that from the first decade of this century it routinely happened that if there was a problem, MVM helped with the budget. The trick was frequently employed by which the state took a few billions out of MVM if it got into temporary trouble.
Next to the state’s loss, MVM’s losses were negligible. But one of Mol’s subsidiaries, FGSZ also lost on this construction because for years it could not issue a tender to use the HAG pipeline. Fortunately, Mol was the 40 percent owner of MET. (Mol stands for Hungarian Oil Company. -ed.)
But who are the owners?
This is not possible to know with certainty. Even MET Hungary Zrt. CEO Gergely Szabó wasn’t willing to reveal this information to Figyelő.
What is certain is that MET Holding AG was registered in Switzerland, which has numerous subsidiaries. 40 percent of the holding company is owned by Mol, 10 percent by a Swiss company by the name of MET ManCo AG, in which Benjámin Lakatos has an interest. The 38 year-old Lakatos, who is also the director of MET Holding, previously worked for Mol and is considered to be a confident of Mol CEO Zsolt Hernádi.
50 percent of the company belongs to WISD Holding, which owns numerous miscellaneous companies via a complicated network of offshore companies. (Hungarian investigative website) Átlátszó previously unearthed that, among the companies in which WISD has an ownership interest, are companies owned by István Garancsi and György Nagy. Garancsi is the owner of the Videoton football team and a good friend of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and Zsolt Hernádi.
In the domestic business world György Nagy is considered an ally of OTP president Sándor Csányi. Garancsi and Nagy are owners of WISD through their respective Cypriot companies, Inather Ltd. and Westbay.
The third known owner of WISD is Small Valley Investments Ltd., which is registered in the British Virgin Islands. According to our information the company is owned by Russians, and that altogether they own 20 percent of MET Holding.
The fourth owner of WISD is a Swiss company by the name of Deneb Algedi Invest AG which is also owned by Benjámin Lakatos.
Viktor Orbán comes up
In Autumn of this year a Swiss and a Roman paper published articles claiming that the reason Viktor Orbán traveled to Switzerland may have been to conduct MET business. A number of Hungarian energy experts are of the opinion that the articles appearing in the foreign papers were a warning on the part of foreign secret services that they were watching the opaque energy deals of the Hungarian government with Russia. The articles appeared in two relatively minor international papers that are not in the habit of breaking stories of world economic importance.
Even before the Swiss article appeared, there were a lot of rumors that MET was very important to the Prime Minister. The theory was that the company is an important part of the new economic elite being organized around the Hungarian head of government.
The Russians were also needed
In 2007 Mol founded the company that grew into MET Holding, and which the oil company was the only owner at the beginning. In 2004 Mol sold its gas unit, but with the establishment of MET retained the possibility of returning one day to the gas trade.
In 2009 a company registered in Belize (Normeston) bought half of MET, at which point the Russians acquired an interest. Belize is a Central American company where the institution of “introduction shares” exists. This means that those people receive the dividends who can personally show that the shares are physically with them. It is not necessary for them to introduce themselves. That Russians were behind the company was confirmed by Gergely Szabó, MET Hungary CEO to Figyelő. The company needed the Russians in order to help obtain gas cheaply: “We also hoped that through its owners MET could obtain gas advantageously”. That Russians are involved in the company through Small Valley, I heard from person familiar with Mol matters.
As Szabó explained, the Russians can obtain gas inexpensively. There are those who believe that they are the other leg to MET’s wonderful rise.
Anyway the Russians are willing to sell gas to a given country cheaper than what is provided by the official, long-term contract, and creates various trading companies for the purpose of conducting the business.
This is how the business works
The trade in gas is the most profitable business on this side of Europe because:
- Huge quantities of it are needed, and it is possible to sell it in huge amounts. Even with small margins it is possible to make huge profits in a short period of time.
- Because it arrives through pipelines, it is easy to establish a monopoly situation with it: only those with access to the pipeline can also sell it.
- The market is influenced by state regulations. Who obtains the favors of the authorities needn’t be afraid of competitors.
- It is almost impossible to obtain gas that is not Russia. Whoever is on good terms with them shall be showered in gold.
In these parts nearly all the gas comes from Russia, where the state has a monopoly and where the huge company by the name of Gazprom is responsible for production, delivery, as well as trade. The Russians like to agree on gas prices separately with countries in this region for long periods, whenever possible. The last of the so-called long-term contracts concluded by Hungary in 1995 for twenty years expires this summer. There is no agreement regarding its extension and for this reason there is a lot of movement in the Hungarian gas market these days.
The long-term contracts are always political decisions often determined over the course of negotiations between the Kremlin and the government of the other country. Gazprom sells the same gas at prices that vary by as much as three-fold. There were times when Gazprom sold gas to Bulgaria for USD 600 per cubic meter but only charged Belarusian USD 167. There really is not other product on the international market for which there really is no price. Nobody knows how much it costs to produce gas in Russia, and the Russians sell to their customers based on whatever momentary political interests dictate.
The buyers have little choice in the matter. For example, in Hungary most households heat with gas, and much of the electricity is produced from gas, which is indispensable for industry. So gas is required. And it is difficult to choose among suppliers. Oil prices exist because it is possible to change sources of supply: oil comes in a barrel and in containers from just about anywhere. For this reason oil prices are, for the most part, uniform. A seller cannot allow himself to play with prices. However, this is not the case with the delivery of gas, which is tied to pipelines.
There is also a cheaper one
So the gas enters the country on the basis of a price structure contained in the 1995 agreement. But if the Russians want, they supply the same gas for less.
The Russians anyway created a shadow model as well. In certain cases, seemingly harmful to their own market, they also sell gas cheaply to certain beneficiaries. The way the model works is that they set up a trading company that is allowed to purchase gas from Gazprom at a reduced price, and then sell it to the target market for less than what is provided for by the long-term contract, but still with a respectable profit.
The Russians operate such brokerage companies for two reasons: on the one hand it enables them to sideline those among their own people the Kremlin happens to target.
On the other hand, it enables them to create and control the oligarchs and politicians of the target country. Operating such a brokerage company is not only a good investment from the point of view of bribing oligarchs in the target country. In general, through these companies it is also able to blackmail the target country even if its partners lose their influence as a result of a domestic political change or domestic showdown. If a country becomes addicted to cheap gas, then whoever is in power thinks twice before deciding whether to terminate the grey business with the Russians at the price of higher utility costs, or for the new people to take the warm seats of the oligarchs of the previous cycle.
In this manner it is possible to earn a lot of money without effectively doing any work. The brokerage companies sell the same thing as their competitors from the same sources. They simply are able to access it less expensively. Apart from paper work there is no other task.
There is some indication that MET partially works on the basis of this model. There is no proof of this, but various domestic energy industry experts believe it is likely that the company can purchase Russian gas in Western European less expensively thanks to its Russian owners.
How does a more sophisticated model work?
The largest of such brokerage companies to ever exist was the Russian-Ukrainian RosUkrEnergo, which during its heyday in 2006 was able to make USD 785 million in profits in just under one year (this is about one half of the profits Austria’s ÖMV made in 2013). Apart from this, neither refineries, nor petrol stations, nor anything else had to be maintained. All that was required was the work of some lawyers in Switzerland. RosUkrEnergo bought gas at a discount on the Russian side of the Russian-Ukrainian border, and then sold it on the other side. Naturally, nothing happened to the gas itself. The transaction only took place on paper. Half of the company belonged to Ukraine Oligarch Dmitrij Firtas, the other half belonged to a Swiss subsidiary of Gazprom.
Reuters estimates that Gazprom lost USD 2 billion in under a few years by selling gas cheap to Firtas. Except Firta was one of the most influential people in Ukraine for a long time. More than half of the members of parliament literally took instructions for him, and in this way it was possible to manipulate Ukrainian politics to suit Russia’s needs.
For a while in 2009 Firtas was taken out of the business when Yulia Timoshenko became the Ukranian prime minister. Then they took him back. And then after (former Ukrainian president) Jankovics’ failure, he once again fell out of the picture. He is presently under house arrest in Vienna, and most recently called attention to himself by announcing that Hungarian and Romanian paid assassins were threatening his life
However, the Hungarian connection does not only appear with Firtas. He was the owner of a former Hungarian company by the name of Emfesz which, in its heyday, supplied Hungary with one-quarter of its gas, and which operated according to the same model: it gained a market for itself in Hungary with cheap gas from RosUkrEnergo. In only a few years, Emfesz became the 27th largest company in Hungary out of nothing. This also shows the huge amount of easy money can be found in this business model.
Is MET the new Emfesz?
With the failure of Emfesz Hungary’s shadow model domestic player died out. But it appears that a new company, MET, was able to step into its place, but just a little differently. The Russians appeared as owners of MET in 2009. That was the year when Firtas was pushed out of the gas trade, and with this Emfesz’ fate was sealed.
MET happened to become the large winner of the KÁT gas compensation in spring 2011 when Hungary and Russia opened a new chapter in relation to energy. At that time the Hungarian government purchased a 21.4 percent interest in Mol from Russia’s Surgutneftegaz. It is not possible to know who the owners of Surgutneftegaz are, but it is for certain that we are talking about companies that are close to the Kremlin. This company, for example, supplies petrol to the Russian military.
At the time the purchase of the shares in Mol appeared to be a victory: using state administrative means the Russians were prevented from having a say in the running of MOL, and the government considered the business to be a national security success. They claimed to have arranged for us not to be at the mercy of the Russians. However, in retrospect it appears that the business may have been the start of a new Russian-Hungarian energy cooperation involving the political leadership of the two countries. This is indicated by the fact that until that time Fidesz regarded Russia with suspicion. However, since 2011 the friendship between the two governments has strengthened, and they are more and more cooperation agreements to show for it.
MET is expanding
These days MET is visibly strengthening, and it is readily apparent that the company’s ambition goes beyond simply bringing gas to Hungary. Last year it purchased the Dunamenti Power station which produces electricity from gas and which is the country’s second largest producer of electricity. The power plant almost went bankrupt before MET acquired it. MET was able to save the power station by acquiring gas less expensively than the French.
In the same way, MET acquired GDP Suez Energy Holding Hungary Zrt. last year, which was the domestic electricity trader for the French company.
Offshore is not a problem
The Hungarian government officially opposes the spread of offshore companies to Hungary. The new Fundamental Law officially opposes the spread of offshore companies in Hungary. According to the new Fundamental Law the government of Hungary may not conduct business with companies whose ownership structure is not transparent. Among MET’s owners are numerous offshore companies which, with powerful help from the state, are able to find fantastic opportunities in Hungary.
The Budapest Beacon published this article on their Facebook page today, and got an unprecented amout of troll-like abuse in comments. Obviously the article touched a nerve, and the Putin-bots were sent out to attack. I predict the same here …
@Bowen. I hope that it did not happen here,
On a (slightly) more serious note. I hope that MET converted the money from HUF to CHF. Otherwise they have a huge foreign currency loss on cash. I think the federal tax is about 16%. If Hungary ever wants to claim it back from them I hope they ask that MET do their utmost to remain in profitable standing.
I was under the impression that oil was always traded in US Dollars – perhaps this is true of gas as well?
Paul: I was under the impression that oil was always traded in US Dollars – perhaps this is true of gas as well?
You are right. However, the Russians (in this case) can agree to any currency.as seller, if they want to.
With regard to Hungary.
The people pay in HUF to the gas company, which in turn purchase it from another party (MVM?) in Huf..
The gas companies need to otherwise they run a currency exposure, If they run a currency exposure I am sure they would charge this to the clients, which is currently not happening.
Ron
I am pretty sure MVM has to pay in CHF, so the loss is theirs….no problem, if MVM is losing money the state will safe it will tax money. They won’t rise the gas prices so the people still have low utility costs. If needed just another tax form is introduced.
What is the ESMA doing? There is clearly insider trading happening to the point that the SEC would be all over this.
Let’s draw the conclusions:
MET – whose scheme was personally OKd by Orban – is making about net HUF 50bn (USD 200m) per annum and the scheme has been running for 4 years now.
Garancsi and Nagy are widely believed to be strohmen of Orban’s. That’s the general assumption on the Hungarian energy market and everybody behaves as this was an undisputed fact.
The force exerted by these amounts of money (even if a part will be distributed to Russian friends) on Hungarian politics should not be underestimated.
Csanyi Sandor (a rather well-informed oligarch if ever there was one) just bought into Olajterv, another shady energy company in bed with Russian siloviki. Paks 2 is a similar, but even bigger deal and apparently Csanyi is now convinced that Paks 2 is for real, he wants his cut too.
It’s one thing to know that Antal Rogan and his pals at the municipality of district 5 sold several hundred pieces of real estate at a fraction of the market price for cronies and made billions of HUF for themselves and causing similar losses to the public.
But is quite another to face the fact that the prime minister’s decisions (at least) in the last 3-4 years with respect to Russia (and the correspondingly with respect to the West) and energy in general were rendered with one purpose in mind only: to personally benefit to the detriment of the nation and its taxpayers.
This is simple treason. What we are seeing here is full-blown African-style kleptocracy.
On the other hand, how can anyway expect that any genuine start-up opposition could topple this mafia/siliviki power structure?
I mean MSZMP in 1989 in Hungary, now it is obvious, was just a bunch of elderly clowns compared to these people, a hard core mafia supported by active Russian FSB/GRU elements.
Here is a german translation of this article, maybe for somebody this is more comfortable to read. Best regards, PL
http://www.pesterlloyd.net/html/1503met.html
All of this leads me to wonder about Orbán’s motivation these days.
In the past I thought it was just ego and a drive for power (with added revenge – e.g. on Gy for the TV debate and the 2006 election). But now that the regime is entrenched and so dominant, corruption and money have become significant drivers.
No doubt money is THE driver for most of the people involved (I suspect many of the top people in and around Fidesz don’t actually understand the politics, and probably care even less). But what about Orbán? No doubt he enjoys the money, but I still believe that isn’t his primary motivation. If someone said to him, you can have total power over the country, but you won’t get rich, he’d still take it, without hesitation. But I suspect most of his backers and supporters wouldn’t be interested.
So, an interesting clash of interests could be developing within and around Fidesz. They need Orbán to keep them in the lifestyle they have become accustomed to, so they will tolerate anything he does, no matter how mad, as long as the money flows. But what if some serious clash develops between their straightforward need for money and Orbán’s more nuanced motivational drivers? What if his desire for total power and revenge starts to get in the way of sating their greed?
Will there come a point where he actually becomes a hindrance to them, and they realise that the system is so embedded and automatic that they no longer need him – anyone will do as figurehead?
It might even turn out that, in a horribly black way, this is a crucial turning point in the Orbán dictatorship. Regimes that are motivated by power and politics tend to be hard to shift, but regimes driven entirely by corruption are typically short lived – the corruption ultimately becomes impossible to control and the regime self-destructs, or becomes dysfunctional, and is therefore more vulnerable to unrest and revolution.
In a way, it doesn’t matter what happens, as by the time this regime has gone, Hungary will have been bled dry, and saddled with huge debts, and the only functioning political power will be Jobbik. But this focus on corruption might at least mean that that day is nearer than we thought.
It’s a fascinating story, Eva, and I truly hope all the details keep building and building and that it turns out to be the story that wouldn’t die, we will see, but my guess is that the CIA / EU – whoever – has all the specifics and know exactly who’s who regarding corruption, but that ‘they’ fear to topple the regime as long as an alternative government might be under Jobbik’s control; VO knows this full well and is doing a text-book job of dividing and marginalising the left/liberal opposition (to the extent that it’s even necessary for him to bother with them) and keeping Jobbik just on the edge of legitimacy – all of which is intended to keep his ‘foreign’ enemies at bay. And if he goes too far, ‘they’ jerk his chain: the ‘6 persons barred from entering the US’ story was just such a reminder that he should be careful. And ‘they’ really don’t give a fig about him fiddling with the law domestically, like road tolls and Sunday trading – in fact ‘they’ may even perceive it as a good thing that he’s busy with matters that don’t concern ‘them’.
But venturing slightly off-topic briefly, I just wanted to ask you about the photo: how do you know it’s Orban? If it is, it’s worth a 1,000 words, of course, but it doesn’t quite look right to me (maybe Barroso?) the jowls look too slender, I would say. When I first saw it a few months ago I spent an idle quarter hour trying to ascertain if it was genuinely Orban, and my conclusion was that it isn’t. [And if you are not sure it is, then better, imo, not to claim it is. But that’s up to you, of course.]
Orban says that the state-owned media is “his”. It’s natural, after l’état, c’est moi and nobody questions this.
State media costs HUF 80bn annually and state-owned companies like MOL, MVM etc. spend at least another 50bn on advertisement. The combined amount is less than what Hungary spends on the entire higher education.
So around HUF 130bn is the budget Orban can spend on “his” media (of course he can buy other media like TV2 if he wants to) in which media only one thing counts (so said Orban): loyalty.
Small right wing print outlets can do whatever they want (they will survive), but from HUF 130bn – with the help of Arpad Habony, Fanny Kaminski, the Századvág brain trust, Andrew G. Vajna et al – Orban will control the minds of the people via the state TV and radio.
Of course the regulation preferring state media — like in the lowest cost cable TV subscription package only state media can be included by the cable provider – will help Orban. But that goes without saying.
Berlusconi and Putin proved amply that TV media is what matters, especially as the average Hungarian watches the most television in Europe (or in any case Hungariians are near the top). Forget temporary unpopularity, Orban decided to win and he will.
@Live long and prosper. Re photo. I just republished Budapest Sentinel’s. You maybe right.
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Anne Applebaum: “Apparently, @FedericaMog has just said she opposes any EU effort to counter Russian propoganda. Things are fine as they are.”
Federica Mogherini, not too many people would recognize her name is “High Representative of the EU for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. Vice President of the Eu Commission.”
Just so people know how tough the “European Union” is or will be with Putin or Orban. This is when official Russian propaganda says that the French murderers at Charlie Hebdo were CIA agents.
At the same time the Socialist French government thanks Orban for his gratefulness, apparently for Orban’s statement at the anti-terrorism march in Paris that the French are essentially idiots to have let in so many dark-skinned potential terrorists, Hungarians will not commit the same mistake, Hungary will fight these dangerous elements. According to Orban, for the French it’s too late, they going down the drain anyway.
Reblogged this on BackChannels.
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Did anyone see this article from the former judge Zsuzsa Sandor?
http://jogasz.cafeblog.hu/2015/01/16/esznel-vagytok/