In the opinion of many, Hungary is no longer a democracy

If Viktor Orbán were as talented at governing as he is at political maneuvering he would be an excellent prime minister. But his brain power is spent on devising devious traps for his opponents whose imagination can’t possibly measure up to his, with his bag full of tricks. Dirty tricks, dishonest tricks, shameful tricks. Fortunately there are not too many people on this earth who can surpass his moral turpitude. He is a man who thinks that in politics anything goes. I don’t blame the political opposition for being duped by him once again.

So, what happened? The head of the press department of the Prime Minister’s Office said that Viktor Orbán would deliver a speech before the day’s parliamentary agenda. The announced title of the speech was “Magyarország nem hagyja magát!” (Hungary doesn’t give in!). Considering that the vote on the amendments to the constitution was scheduled for today, everybody assumed that the prime minister would talk about his government’s decision to go ahead with the scheduled vote despite requests from Brussels and Strasbourg to postpone it. The title of the speech certainly suggested as much.

MSZP had already decided to boycott today’s session. Their empty seats were decorated with huge exclamation points. Only their leading spokesman for the day, József Tóbiás, was in the chamber ready to deliver his answer to Orbán’s speech. Then came the surprise. The speech was not about the constitution and about the request of the Council of Europe and the European Commission to postpone the vote. It was about a recent court decision that allowed utility companies to pass on to their customers the added expenses that they have to endure because of extra taxes mandated by the government.

He was most indignant. He said that he can “hardly find words fit for polite society” to describe what he thinks of the Hungarian judiciary. The decision rendered is “scandalous.” And he went on and on about the poor Hungarian people who pay too much for utilities and about those foreign companies that earned very handsome profits in the past. He asked all Hungarians “to raise their voices so these companies would realize that they are facing not only the government but the whole nation.” Among other adjectives, he used “impudent” (arcátlan, a favorite word of Fidesz politicians) in connection with the courts. Ferenc Gyurcsány rightly considered Orbán’s attack on the courts “a very serious and unacceptable violation of judicial independence.” For good measure he added that “it is not the courts that are impudent but Viktor Orbán, who doesn’t seem to understand the very basis of democracy.”

József Tóbiás, after a few sentences in which he complained that the prime minister had nothing to say about the most important issue at hand–the amendments to the constitution, surrendered his right to speak and left the chamber.

The Hungarian prime minister could thus demonstrate to the electorate that he is their advocate, battling with the utility companies and the courts that are supporting these awful capitalists, while the MSZP delegates didn’t even bother to show up. What kind of mind can come up with such a scenario? Moreover, even if he achieved his immediate goal he also demonstrated that the fears of the European Union and the Council of Europe are not without foundation. Today the Hungarian prime minister again proved that the country he transformed over the last three years is no longer a democracy. A woman member of parliament cried out during the speech: “Dictator!” while four members of DK held up a banner that read: “Önkényuralom,” a synomym of “Dictatorship!” I think it was a high price to pay for a fleeting moment of victory.

DK's banner that reads "Dictatorship" / Photo Simon Móricz, Népszabadság

DK’s banner that reads “Dictatorship” / Photo Simon Móricz, Népszabadság

Shortly after 5:00 p.m. the amendments were passed. There were only 309 members of parliament present. 265 voted for the amendments, 11 against, and 33 abstained. Most of the Jobbik MPs abstained, but Mrs. Loránt Hegedűs, Péter Schön, and Tamás Sneider said no. The Schiffer wing of the former LMP was there and voted against the bill. So did Katalin Szili, formerly MSZP but now an independent. The Jávor wing of LMP refused to participate in the charade and so did members of DK in addition to the MSZP delegation.

The opposition’s last hope is President János Áder, who is in Berlin at the moment. According to former president and chief justice of the Constitutional Court László Sólyom, in his legal interpretation the president is empowered to veto the bill. Sólyom wrote an article on the subject that appeared in Népszabadság. What an irony, this man who was Fidesz’s choice to become president and who never hid his disdain for the socialists and his support of Fidesz today is able to publish an article only in Népszabadság. I might add that there are a couple of very critical opinion pieces in right-of-center publications like Heti Válasz and Mandiner. Tomorrow I’ll concentrate on Sólyom’s arguments and the writings of these right-wing critics.

Meanwhile, more and more people are expressing their concern about the amended constitution. They point out that the changes are so fundamental and extensive that the original document is unrecognizable. Journalists are calling this new document “Constitution 2.0.” José Manuel Barroso again expressed his worries and so did Herman Van Rompuy, Thorbjørn Jagland, Hannes Swoboda, Martin Schulz (president of the European Parliament), and many others.

There has been only one official Hungarian response to all this. Hungarian Foreign Minister János Martonyi announced that “Hungary is open to dialogue with anyone on the subject and Hungary will ask the opinion of the Venice Commission on this newly amended document.”

And finally, here is the letter Barroso wrote to Orbán on Friday. It didn’t do any good.

Barroso to Orbán

54 comments

  1. Here is Orban’s own metaphor of democracy:

    “a vonal fel van festve a fára, már csak bele kell vágni a fejszét.”

    The mark is painted on the tree, you just have to cut it with your axe at the mark.

    [Orban’s reported words in a closed meeting of the Fidesz faction before the vote on March 11, 2013]

  2. By now people should no longer be surprised by Viktor’s machinations–no rules; no respect for precedent or established, predictable way of doing things…Orban at his unruly best.

    Why did he rush a clearly contemptible rehash of the constitution? This is a tactical question. Brusquely, he had those miniatures of humans called parliamentary representatives vote on cue. They did without a quibble. The brouhaha is expected.
    Next step? If one could bet on it, I’d wager a significant sum that now Ader will (be directed) not to sign it. This will commence a period of negotiations etc. calculated to display Orban’s and the country’s ‘democratic commitments’. It should last quite a few months.

    In the meantime, the Felcsutian con-artist will take on ‘enemies of the people’ like the gas companies. If it wasn’t so god-awful, it would be laughable. So, Orban thinks that added taxes cannot be passed on by the companies but the Orban government can declare that any EU penalties will be shifted to the citizenry in the form of new taxes. That’s not a double standard; that’s not the gold standard; that’s the “Orban Standard”–a new conception in the field of politics.

    Anyway, the main point: Orban keeps picking the timing and the terrain of contention. By this, he reduces the opposition to non sequiturs–who can produce logical objections to illogical processes? So, these ‘combats’ are declared ‘victories’ and the uncomprehending, self-victimized, bunkos
    cheer with heartfelt glee. They’ve won again.

  3. My original intent was to write this (before I ‘lost it’ and wrote the above):

    If the constitutional changes are signed into law, the right penalty by the EU for Hungary would be to suspend voting rights and development funds for two years; and subject to review thereafter.

  4. Orban’s diversionary tactics:

    When he abolished the Constitution and introduced “Basic Law” 1.0 in 2011, he gave the red herring of his fighting against the EU and the foreign banks.

    Now he pushed through “Basic Law” 2.0 and speaks about his fighting against the foreign utility companies.

    These tactics are so demeaning to human intelligence.

  5. Suspension for Orban’s life!
    The inferior individuals in Hungary, who can not sympathize with the freedom loving demonstrators, are lost to humanity.
    Their home is the hell.
    They are without soul.
    Lost to humanity.

  6. >>”These amendments raise concerns with respect to the principle of the rule of law, EU law and Council of Europe standards,” Barroso and Jagland said in a joint statement.<<

    These weak statements from the EU leaders raise concerns that they are strong in appeasement only.

  7. Sorry to occupy so much space here, but I cannot sleep, I am so upset.

    Did Chancellor Merkel utter any criticism when she talked to Ader yesterday?
    I have not read anything.

    A democratic minded leader of great calibre would have cancelled his/her
    meeting with Ader in protest, since Ader is in tyrant Orban’s close circle!

  8. tappanch :
    Sorry to occupy so much space here, but I cannot sleep, I am so upset.
    Did Chancellor Merkel utter any criticism when she talked to Ader yesterday?
    I have not read anything.
    A democratic minded leader of great calibre would have cancelled his/her
    meeting with Ader in protest, since Ader is in tyrant Orban’s close circle!

    This hasn’t been reported and I’m guessing at it….Merkel said: “You can’t sign it.”

  9. People underestimate Fidesz, behind Orbán are Lázár and Rogán, their most agressive and ruthless consigliere. Lázár, if anything, is even more agressive than Orbán (plus he has even more provincial as he speaks no foreign languages at all) and he learnt that it works.

    But the complicity of the rest be it Martonyi, Kövér, Navracsics, Deutsch, Szájer, Semjén (or Polt, Handó in the other branches who are effectively shadow members of the government) etc. makes them equally guilty.

    The moral turpitude cannot be imagined from afar, although Prof. Éva Balogh comes close to understanding the situation. That said, the situation on the ground is so much worse.

    I completely agree: what we have now in Hungary is not a democracy. It’s up to political scientists to define what it is, but it is certainly no democracy.

    And if you think that you have seen it all, oh, you are mistaken. The fall will continue and you have seen nothing yet what Orbán, Lázár and the Fidesz are capable of. They will stop at nothing to keep their power and destroy the opposition. For them it is religion – although I guess you can’t even imagine what that is, as most readers are not religious fanatics. Fideszniks are.

  10. My question is: how is Orban going to remake Hungarians into a devout Catholic nation? As far as I know, you Hungarians are not religious zealots at least as compared to my country, Poland? Not to mention the fact that it is changing in Poland to the disadvantage of the Catholic Church.

  11. Tappanch: “Did Chancellor Merkel utter any criticism when she talked to Ader yesterday?
    I have not read anything.”

    The meeting is today. First with the foreign minister and then with Merkel.

  12. Now we’ll know if G-d has a sense of humor: all that’s missing from total, uncontrollable mayhem is the election of a Hungarian Pope….

  13. Prof. Balogh writes: “I don’t blame the political opposition for being duped by him once again.” I am sorry, but I do blame them. It is precisely the low quality, the cowardliness and total lack of clarity of purpose of all opposition parties, as well as their useless and frequently pointless tactics that allow the treachery and low cunning of Orban & Co. to get away with murder every single time. Boycotts, especially in Parliament are stupid, but only slightly less stupid than leaving a useless MP in situ, who had no brains to respond off the cuff to Orban’s populistic swindle re: the utility companies. I fear for the future of a nation that cannot produce the brains, never mind the courage to stand up to tyrants, the way they should do. The solution will come from the streets. Many democrats fear that, I don’t. The students, the miners and many, honest citizens will finally work out how to get back to democracy. Mind you, my hope is for workers’ democracy, not this bourgeois version which has many times in the past made a pack with the extreme right, only to find their fingers burnt. Who said that all those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it?

  14. Just received a scan of an article on Áder’s visit in the Frankfurter Allgeimeine Zeitung. The reception is very cool.The article talks about admonition and warning and the atmosphere is described as “ungemütlich.” Uneasy. Uncomfortable.

  15. Orbán would simply have Áder impeached and removed in a couple of days if he did not sign. Áder is powerless. But he will sign it anyway, he is a believer, he will never spit Orbán in the eye.

    The Hungarian people shall not tolerate any attempt by imperialists to meddle into our internal affairs. We shall triumph over Westren agents of destruction and shall emerge as the most glorious nation.

  16. petofi :
    Now we’ll know if G-d has a sense of humor: all that’s missing from total, uncontrollable mayhem is the election of a Hungarian Pope….

    Odd are down from 10% to 5%

  17. Inflation is too low, this means that they can decrease interest rates (for now) significantly further and let forint devalue.

    Fidesz is absolutely comfortable with a EUR of 320 or more, until it happens gradually in an orderly fashion (like they sold Matolcsy to the market).

    No problem — until circumstances change suddenly, then what happens is anybody’s guess. But we will cross the bridge when we get to the river.

  18. krüger :
    Inflation is too low, this means that they can decrease interest rates (for now) significantly further and let forint devalue.
    Fidesz is absolutely comfortable with a EUR of 320 or more, until it happens gradually in an orderly fashion (like they sold Matolcsy to the market).
    No problem — until circumstances change suddenly, then what happens is anybody’s guess. But we will cross the bridge when we get to the river.

    Inflation is not low, it was just artificially lowered for one month by KSH putting in 10% less for the utilities in their formula.

    I have not experienced lower utility bills, by the way.

    As I explained days ago, the biggest utility bill by far is for district heating. It is already government-owned, not foreign-owned, so Orban does not mention them as enemies of the his government. They multiply the nominally 10% less rate with a bigger factor, controlled solely by them, so the bill is not smaller.

    The aim of this whole exercise is to expel foreign utilities from Hungary, nationalize them, then re-privatize them to Fidesz buddies.

  19. Orban:

    “the high VAT rates are socially just”

    I am not kidding, this is what he actually said today, see the link above

  20. Fidesz does not want to give the utilities to anyone.

    Continued state ownership (ie. effective Fidesz control, since they plan to stay on for quite long) is the preferred method.

    You can syphon of as much money as you dream, without any risk, in any number if ways. If these companies go bust, the state (taxpayers) will bail them out, doesn’t matter. (“The state always has money right? I mean if it’s necessary they always solve it somehow, these politicians? There is money there, there’s always money.”)

    State ownership simply means only another place where Fidesz can take out money at the counter (kifizetőhely) as they own the prosecution and the courts.

  21. orban is a puppet. the real forces hold seemingly very big power.
    this is not the work of a little third rate jurist.
    this is a genocidal attempt on a whole nation in the interest of some sinister plans.
    this will open the gates of mohacs to “tatar” forces.

  22. tappanch :

    petofi :
    Now we’ll know if G-d has a sense of humor: all that’s missing from total, uncontrollable mayhem is the election of a Hungarian Pope….

    Odd are down from 10% to 5%

    The way I look at it, he could not control his own flock to do the honest things. I am talking about a flock that pretend or truly believes in G-d’s words. I guess G-d abandoned Erdo when sent the Fidesz on Hungary.

  23. tappanch :
    Orban today:
    We need 35% VAT (sales tax) on “luxury” items, unfortunately EU did not allow it yet.
    http://hvg.hu/gazdasag/20130312_Orban_A_felsooktatas_forro_krumpli_most_n

    ..and as we know in Orban books, luxury items include certain education paths, various medications, various medical treatments to those who they are in the “last stage” of their illness, using the banking system, and the list goes on. The sad part is that I am not kidding. Fidesz did consider the previous items as excessive.

  24. Headlines from the Internet:
    Hungary Tests the E.U.’s Norms – New York Times
    Hungary, defying EU, limits powers of top court – Reuters UK
    Hungary: Constitution Changes Warrant EU Action – Human Rights Watch
    Hungary inflation plunges to seven-year low – GlobalPost
    Hungary defies critics over change to constitution – BBC News
    Alarm rises as Hungary defiant on law – Financial Times
    Hungary’s constitutional changes spark fears – Sydney Morning Herald
    Deaf to critics, Orban changes Hungary’s constitution – AFP
    Hungary Central Bank Rejig, Constitution Vote Hit Forint – Wall Street Journal
    Protesters await Áder at Berlin event commemorating 1848 Revolution – Politics.hu

  25. krüger :
    Inflation is too low, this means that they can decrease interest rates (for now) significantly further and let forint devalue.
    Fidesz is absolutely comfortable with a EUR of 320 or more, until it happens gradually in an orderly fashion (like they sold Matolcsy to the market).
    No problem — until circumstances change suddenly, then what happens is anybody’s guess. But we will cross the bridge when we get to the river.

    But sooner or later the HUF savings will melt. It’s dangerous game of chicken.

  26. re Merkel. She never has been known as a charismatic thoughy with principles. She is more of a sly operator. She’s got 50 bigger issues to deal with and it is not the German style to directly request (much less order) something. Plus why would she care? Ungarn is far and irrelevant. Trusting in Merkel re Hungary is completely misguided.

  27. tappanch :
    Orban:
    “the high VAT rates are socially just”
    I am not kidding, this is what he actually said today, see the link above

    Right. He said the same thing about the flat tax. Wait until he figures out that a degressive tax system is even more just. Why paying ten times more taxes when you don’t have ten times more children children?

  28. Nepszava:
    Áder: Németországnak jobban kell értenie a magyar törvényhozás szándékait
    Áder János köztársasági elnök szerint Németországban pontosabb képnek kellene kialakulnia a magyar alkotmányos szabályozásról.

    The secret advisers are spinning the puppets, Ader, Orban, Navrasics, and their fooled supporters on the street shamelessly.

    This fidesz plot is the only game in town.

    Do not accept it!

    The Students of March can change it, but great violence meet them.

  29. János Martonyi, the foreign minister (and former communist secret agent, ie. a snitch, under at least two separate code names) and everyone’s favourite ‘liberal’ in Fidesz (NOT), just said that the “competence of the constitutional court actually increased” [by the recent constitutional amendments].

    What a disgusting liar. These people have no decency whatsoever. He would sell his own f**ng mother to defend Orbán. Please, excuse my language.

    I am always livid if naive people completely misjudge others just because they don’t look or act agressive or theratening, like Martonyi, Pokorni, and other ‘supposed’ liberals within Fidesz. These people are die-hard Fidesz troopers and only delusionals can think that they are any better than Kövér és Orbán or Simicska.

  30. @Toadgirl

    Remember that whatever ideological belief Martonyi, Kover, Lazar, Pokorni (et. al.) may have in Mr. O. ….it is buttressed by the eternal, and never-endingly most important factor in Hungarian political life–MONEY. That is to say that if O. didn’t already show enough reckless abandon with the country’s funds in rewarding his backers (political and otherwise), he produced an Ace with the Azeri axeman. Now, I presume, he is touted as “Zeus-on-high” by the faithful…and his potential largesse can know no bounds. Needless to say, the salivating members of his inner circle can’t wait to outdo one another in begging and fetching and lying; and making the requisite approval noises before one and all.

    Why, for a BMW bike what might I be capable of myself?

    After all, I am ‘Magyar’…

  31. xander :
    Orbán would simply have Áder impeached and removed in a couple of days if he did not sign. Áder is powerless. But he will sign it anyway, he is a believer, he will never spit Orbán in the eye.
    The Hungarian people shall not tolerate any attempt by imperialists to meddle into our internal affairs. We shall triumph over Westren agents of destruction and shall emerge as the most glorious nation.

    This sounds something like what the Germans believed in 1942.

    Now, Mr. Xander….go back to your history books and read what happened to Germany just a little while later.

  32. In today’s New York Times blog column of Nobel Laureate economist Paul Krugman, Princeton University international constitutional scholar and Hungary specialist Professor Kim Lane Scheppele writes: “The Hungarian Parliament [on March 11 2013] passed a 15-page amendment to its one-year-old constitution against a storm of protest from both home and abroad. If it is signed by the Hungarian President, János Áder, the “Fourth Amendment” will wipe out more than 20 years of Constitutional Court of Hungary decisions protecting human rights and it will reverse concessions made to Europe over the last year of difficult bargaining as the Fidesz government has tightened its grip on power…. But Hungary’s allies should see through the fog of amendment. By now it should be clear that Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and his Fidesz party recognize no limitations in their quest for power.”

  33. xander :
    We shall triumph over Westren agents of destruction and shall emerge as the most glorious nation.

    Cultural Learnings of Hungarian Spectrum for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Orbanistan?

  34. petofi
    Now, Mr. Xander….go back to your history books and read what happened to Germany just a little while later.

    “petofi,”

    It looks like a great time for you to look up the meaning of the words, “irony” and “sarcasm.”

  35. Orbán and Fidesz know that if past conflicts had given them the
    “camouflage” to hide the real issues and their poor performance. A normal media could perhaps bring about their downfall, therefore media restrictions were installed.
    They continue their traditional ways of demagoguery, blaming foreigners for their own shortcomings, tightening domestic controls, and they try to whip up nationalism of the Hungarian minority in the neighbor countries, albeit unsuccessfully.
    Their success in staying in power is matched by their failure to govern well.
    Leadership is self-perpetuating and not subject to replacement or accountability even after the worst mistakes or disasters.
    Even the masses seem to be persuaded by demagoguery into applauding the restriction of their own rights and material welfare.

  36. Tyrker :

    petofi
    Now, Mr. Xander….go back to your history books and read what happened to Germany just a little while later.

    “petofi,”
    It looks like a great time for you to look up the meaning of the words, “irony” and “sarcasm.”

    I hadn’t seen Xander here before and thought he was a troll.

    But yes, the missive stands as ironic.

  37. About a year or so now to go before the election? If Ader *points out* one or two minor discrepanies, then it goes back to *debate*, several weeks lost there.

    Obviously the EU moves at the speed of a centipede minus 99 of its legs, so once the raped version does then make it through the various tortuous review stages there we could well be heading towards next year? What then?

    In the middle of an election campaign the dictator will use any gentle raps across the wrist by the Eurocrats as an election tool.

    If the EU told the regime that “Ok, fire away with your constitution lads but bear in mind that while we are reviewing it, we’ll just keep hold of those millions of euros we are sending you and your corrupt cronies and thugs on an annual basis” then we might see how brave Orban really is but the EU is not going to do that in amillion years because they continue, despite all the evidence to the contrary, to believe they are dealing with democrats (albeit somewhat headstrong ones) and not out and out fascists.

    More pertinently, the vast majority of the population couldn’t give a fiddlers one way or the other about the constitution so talk of taking on and defeating the Fidesz/Jobbik axis by extra-parliamentary means is nonsense.

  38. petofi :

    Tyrker :

    petofiNow, Mr. Xander….go back to your history books and read what happened to Germany just a little while later.

    “petofi,”It looks like a great time for you to look up the meaning of the words, “irony” and “sarcasm.”

    I hadn’t seen Xander here before and thought he was a troll.
    But yes, the missive stands as ironic.

    Sorry, I am lurking here and don’t like to use one particular name. I am certainly not a troll, the problem is more of the opposite, that is that – at least fundamentally – we think too much alike, which is not conductive to discussions. Sometimes a bit of provocation is proper, but that was really just a personal joke invoking, that’s right, Borat (or Orbán and his followers, as they are no better than any religious fanatics or North-Korean media people).

  39. The protest on the 15th has adopted the phrase “Azért a víz az úr!”.

    “Therefore the water is the lord” is my very rough translation.

    But I have no idea what this phrase means. Anybody know?

  40. – Petõfi Sándor –

    FÖLTÁMADOTT A TENGER…

    Föltámadott a tenger,
    A népek tengere;
    Ijesztve eget-földet,
    Szilaj hullámokat vet
    Rémítõ ereje.
    Látjátok ezt a táncot?
    Halljátok e zenét?
    Akik még nem tudtátok,
    Most megtanulhatjátok,
    Hogyan mulat a nép.

    Reng és üvölt a tenger,
    Hánykódnak a hajók,
    Sûlyednek a pokolra,
    Az árboc és vitorla
    Megtörve, tépve lóg.

    Tombold ki, te özönvíz,
    Tombold ki magadat,
    Mutasd mélységes medred,
    S dobáld a fellegekre
    Bõszült tajtékodat;

    Jegyezd vele az égre
    Örök tanúságúl:
    Habár fölûl a gálya,
    S alúl a víznek árja,
    Azért a víz az úr!

    (Pest, 1848. március 27–30.)

  41. Sorry, I am on my iPhone and it is not to easy to reply. The poem was an answer to Pete H at 4:01.
    From wiki:
    The native form of this personal name is Petőfi Sándor. This article uses the Western name order.
    Sándor Petőfi (born Petrovics) 1 January 1823 – most likely 31 July 1849 was a Hungarian poet and liberal revolutionary. He is considered Hungary’s national poet, and was one of the key figures of the Hungarian Revolution of 1848. He is the author of the Nemzeti dal (National Poem), which is said to have inspired the revolution in the Kingdom of Hungary that grew into a war for independence from the Austrian Empire. It is most likely that he died in the Battle of Segesvár, one of the last battles of the war.

  42. @Some1 when I was child growing up in NJ I had to memorize several Petõfi verses which I would then recite them at parties of Hungarian expats. I was not familiar with this one. Thanks!

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